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Opinions on this mare's breeding, please!

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  • Opinions on this mare's breeding, please!


    I'll frankly admit I know far more about TB bloodlines than anything else, so any insight is appreciated!

  • #2
    The dam, Kristall, is from a very well bred Trakehner family. She is closely related to Karl Lagerfeld and Kasimir, and this mare line stands for some 35 approved stallions, King Arthur and Kennedy amongst them. On the whole I would say the dam is more dressage bred.

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    • #3
      Par for the course, Allbreed is wrong. It would be impossible for an 1895 mare to be the dam of a 1985 horse. This is Mona and Silberfee. It is also ALMOST impossible for a 1949 stallion to sire a 1985 horse. Silberfee again. And It IS impossible for a 1985 horse to be the damsire of a 1960s or 1970s horse.
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      • #4
        Also there seems to be a pony in the Westphalian Ancestors...


        • Original Poster

          OK, so there are obviously some errors...

          no thoughts besides that? Thanks for the info on the Trak side, Molly.


          • #6
            Why do you want comments on a pedigree that is wrong?
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            • #7
              If you look up sire and dam on Horse Telex you will get accurate pedigree information at least!
              Sire's dam line goes back to the Anglo Arabian Ramzes
              and also to the hanno stallion Senator.
              Looks like lots of Arabian and TB in the sire Hit's background.
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              • #8
                I believe this mare was for sale a couple years ago, too. I remember looking at her (online) and I was able to find pictures of the sire and dam. I thought she resembled the sire. I don't know much about the breeding, though...sorry. You could contact the seller for more info on the parents and that might help you search for relatives, show results, etc.

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                • Original Poster

                  Originally posted by Mel0309 View Post
                  Why do you want comments on a pedigree that is wrong?
                  Sire and dam are correct. If anyone is familiar with them, I'd appreciate any insight. I took the time to go in and correct the information.

                  Thanks for being so helpful!

                  ETA: Trinity, I am in contact with the seller, just looking for some unbiased opinions. I've seen her in person and ridden her previously. Not actively shopping but when opportunity knocks, you best answer.
                  Last edited by Heinz 57; Feb. 11, 2012, 11:15 PM.


                  • #10
                    The sire's damsire is Paradox I, who is also the sire of Hilltop Farm's Parabol:

                    Hilton Farm's stallion, Portofino, is also a Paradox I son:

                    The damsire of Dreamscape Farm's stallion, Freestyle, is a son of Paradox I: