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  • Pony stallions for small tb mare. Hunter type...?

    There are a few hunter breeders I have seen lately interested in breeding their small tbs and warm bloods to small ponies for large pony hunters! Add me on to that boat!

    I have a few questions though. Obviously there is some debate about breeding only to a section a welsh versus a small cross. That I understand, but still think that there are some nice small cross pony stallions out there.

    So here are the questions...

    Why are the majority of sec. a welsh stallions less of a stud fee? (an average of 500)

    The small cross stallion I like is 1000. (blue who)

    While I really love blue who and he is top of the list, I notice he throws tb type heads. My mare happens to have a beautiful head but it is the typical long tb head.

    I would love the more dishy welsh face but can I find a sec a welsh with the other attributes blue who has?

    Please help!

  • #2
    Pedigree, pedigree and more pedigree.

    If you are breeding for a Hunter Pony, you need proven Hunter Pony Pedigree.

    Most Section A stallions aren't bred for the Hunter Pony genre. Lots of people will suggest this one or that one, but............what have their get done??? Most Section A's don't have the flat kneed movement that is required in the Hunter Pony ring. Most don't have a big step.

    Do your homework. Find out what the get of "Black Beauty" has won at the top level (if that's what you're interested in breeding for). When I breed a TB mare, I select a full welsh stallion that has PERFORMANCE deep in the pedigree.

    How large is your mare? What is her pedigree (size of her parents)? What is your intent with the foal?
    Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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      #3
      My mare is 15.3 and very petite. She used to wear a 00 shoe when showing. Her father is candis gold who was 16.1 and her mother was 15.3. Her mother was by a stallion named advocatum.

      I am looking to breed a hunter pony. My mare is a beautiful mover, very flat kneed so I am just looking to keep that.

      I would love a grey pony, so a grey stallion would be great but obviously I am open to other colors.

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      • #4
        First foal?
        Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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        • #5
          I have a new sport pony resource that you may not know about. The Sporthorse Stallion Directory for 2012 has a - new this year - sport pony stallion section. It just went in the mail today, but if you're not on the list you can request a free copy through the website. You can also see all the stallion listings on the website, www.theSporthorse.com, including the pony stallions. Good luck with your search!
          Anna Goebel, publisher
          Warmblood Stallions of North America
          Creating a network to promote stallions and connect breeders in North America
          www.WarmbloodStallionsNA.com

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            #6
            it will be her 3rd foal. She is pregnant now due in april and has a 3 year old by roc usa that is 16.2 now.

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            • #7
              PM sent
              Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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              • #8
                I would die for a small thoroughbred (or warmblood) mare to breed to "Hootie". I do not have one right now. I can sell them as fast as they are made up.
                Sandy
                www.sugarbrook.com
                hunter/jumper ponies

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                  #9
                  Selling the baby is also an option for me. I do have a niece that will love to have a pony someday, but while I can keep the foal, it will probably still be for sale.

                  So a marketable foal is also something I am looking for.

                  I do love blue who and I like alvesta Picasso. They are both small grey pony stallions, but both are different types.

                  There are some nice young pony stallions out there, but resale wise I wouldn't want to take that chance.

                  Keep the opinions coming. I like to see all the differences in all these stallions.

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                  • #10
                    I also love Farnley Triton as a pony hunter sire, but he would be way too big to cross with your mare.
                    www.DaventryEquestrian.com
                    Home of Oldenburg, Westphalian & RPSI approved pony stallion Goldhills Brandysnap
                    Also home to Daventry Equine Appraisals & Equine Expert Witness www.EquineAppraisers.com

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                    • #11
                      I have a small TB mare, 15.2 very refined dk bay with four socks and a blaze. She has had two foals. The first is by Sir William and he is now showing in the hunter division and doing great (was champion pony at Ludwig's Corner). He finished off at 14.1 and looks a lot like dad.

                      The second foal born this year is by Venture Farm's Falling Moon Merlin. She is just a doll,very refined and should be about 14.1h.

                      I would consider selling the mare as I mainly breed warmbloods and she is a little small for that.

                      The right TB mare with a small Welsh or welsh cross stallion can make the nicest pony hunters.
                      equistarfarm

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                        #12
                        I hope that my mare will make a good pony broodmare! I live on the west coast and there doesn't seem to be as big as a market here but that another reason I want a marketable foal.

                        If anyone has ponies out of tb mares please post pictures. I would like to see the offspring of these small pony stallions

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                        • #13
                          My TB mares are typically in the 15.1 - 15.2 range. I usually go with a Section B welsh.

                          This is Otteridge Swanson that measures at 14.1 by Farnley Belshazzar.

                          I have bred 7 Belshazzar babies. He is the my favorite Section B stallion standing anywhere. He is 12.3 and the dam is almost 15.2.
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                          Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Samotis View Post

                            If anyone has ponies out of tb mares please post pictures. I would like to see the offspring of these small pony stallions
                            These are all pony foals out of TB mares and by our Section B Welsh stallion Alvesta Picasso.
                            Attached Files
                            www.DaventryEquestrian.com
                            Home of Oldenburg, Westphalian & RPSI approved pony stallion Goldhills Brandysnap
                            Also home to Daventry Equine Appraisals & Equine Expert Witness www.EquineAppraisers.com

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                            • #15
                              Here is Otteridge Dress Blues, also by Farnley Belshazzar out of a TB mare that was 15.2. He measures 14.2.
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                              Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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                              • #16
                                These are all pony foals out of TB mares and by our Section A Welsh stallion Penrhyn Sporting Chance.
                                Attached Files
                                www.DaventryEquestrian.com
                                Home of Oldenburg, Westphalian & RPSI approved pony stallion Goldhills Brandysnap
                                Also home to Daventry Equine Appraisals & Equine Expert Witness www.EquineAppraisers.com

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                                • #17
                                  This is Otteridge Black Hawk by *Forge Nimbus (BRP who was 15 hands) out of a 13.2 1/2 mare.


                                  * As a point of trivia - he is the ONLY Pinto to ever be overall Grand Champion Pony Breeding at the Devon Horse Show.
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                                  Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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                                  • #18
                                    Too many we've bred I don't have pictures of on the computer!
                                    Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

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                                    • #19
                                      Who was the Pendock Larkspur son that posted his video on here a week ago ?

                                      NVM found him http://www.storybookponies.net/rev.html
                                      "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"

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                                      • #20
                                        I have my 14.2 1/2 hh TB mare at Venture Stables, she had a lovely foal out of Lands End Monarch this past year that will be a medium. Her mom was 15.2 and her dad was 16.0 hh. I can't figure out how to post a picture

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