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  • New Yearling Owner-need advice on feed-last questions and pics added #13

    I'm the new proud mommy to my very first ever yearling. I just got him in last week and he has been so good. He's going to be a big boy, as he is already 15h. The breeder was feeding him strategy and 12% sweet feed. Where I have him now they have suggested that I cut the sweet feed, and are switching him to Nutrena Safe Choice, because they have seen great results from it. I think from the long trip (13 hours), he lost a bit of weight. He's a bit ribby, but has a great coat and has been eating well. I was thinking I could go and give him lunch too? But like I said this is my first yearling and I want to make sure that he is getting enough calories, and from the right source. Plus I'm worried about preventing any OCD, as he will hopefully be my future h/j.

    Does anybody have suggestions/comments/advice about his feed? Should I add/change anything? Should I add a lunch? I also wonder if he's just going through a growth spurt and this will all correct itself.
    Last edited by Hrsjmpr0614; May. 22, 2008, 01:32 PM.
    "Finesse, compromise, and an indirect approach to a problem --"going in through the back door" -- will usually get the job done much better than confrontations, force, and fights." George Morris

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    Safe Choice is good but I would go with a Youth formula to ensure he is getting what he needs for his growing body.

    Do you know your hay quality? Some times supplements are necessary to replace what may be missing in the hay.

    Have fun!

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    • #3
      I have had great help from Progressive Nutrition and many others posting have said the same. Nutrition for young starts with understanding what they are getting from their forge (grass; mixed; alfalfa) and then adding right amount of protein and vitamins/minerals. Progressive has various products and customer service is excellent; they are familiar with OCDs and DODs. Did you have yearling vetted? Vet should have recommendations based on what he/she saw at exam. W/ regards to weight, make sure he is up to date on worming...this is usually more frequenct for young horse than mature. You want him on the lean side, don't overfeed.
      Here is new article on OCDs I read http://www.hanoverian.org/ahs_media/...ticles/OCD.pdf

      Don Kapper is director of nutrition will answer questions, dkapper@prognutrition.com

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      • #4
        I can't stress enough how great a ration balancer is. Less amount of feed with high nutrition plus top quality hay free choice, such as timothy or T&A. Also loose minerals free choice. I feed small amount of Nutrena Empower for any weight gain needed. It's balanced omega 6 & 3's & is rice & flax. All low carb/starch.
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        • #5
          We feed the babies, including my yearling, a ration balancer made by Purina. I am happy with it, but I also like the Progessive and Pennfield products.

          Regarding feed changes generally, I would change the feed program over slowly so as to minimize stress on the little one, paticularly since he is already having to adjust to a new place and had a long trip there.
          Roseknoll Sporthorses
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            #6
            By "loose minerals" do you mean a mineral salt block? I know that's probably a really stupid question.

            He is located in an area where high quality feed is hard to come by. He gets the best quality coastal in the summer and T&A in the winter. He is turned out 24/7. Because of this, should I feed any supplements or other feeds to make up for the lesser quality hay?
            "Finesse, compromise, and an indirect approach to a problem --"going in through the back door" -- will usually get the job done much better than confrontations, force, and fights." George Morris

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            • #7
              This is what my filly is on and I LOVE it!
              http://www.feedhorses.com/feeds/spec...TopBreeder.cfm

              I do wet the feed though. She is also on a Progressive Nutrition supplement that I adore.

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              • Original Poster

                #8
                Another stupid question

                By ration balancer, as far as purina is concerned, do you mean:

                Equine Junior

                or

                Born to Win


                Especially with the hay situation not being the absolute best, it seems as if Equine Junior would be more suitable. And when I compare Equine Junior to the Nutrena SafeChoice, the only difference is that Equine Junior has 10ppm more copper and 60ppm more Zinc.

                Again coming from a feed dummy, are those differences significant enough to cause harm? And if so, can I just add a supplement to make up for the difference?

                I've already emailed Progressive feeds to get some advice from them as well. I want the absolute best for my new baby, so please excuse all the questions, I just want as much info as I can get, and know that you all have way more experience with this than me.
                "Finesse, compromise, and an indirect approach to a problem --"going in through the back door" -- will usually get the job done much better than confrontations, force, and fights." George Morris

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                • #9
                  Loose minerals are essentially a loose version of what is in a salt block. For example, see Progressive's website at http://www.prognutrition.com/EquineProducts.htm :

                  Free Choice Minerals
                  Progressive Grass Mineral should be provided free choice to all horses eating grass or mixed hay or pasture.

                  Progressive Alfalfa Mineral should be provided free choice to all horses eating alfalfa hay.


                  Re a salt block and the like, they are very good but do be careful as sometimes babies get a little overzealous with them. I have one youngster that cannot have a salt block full-time as he would finish a good-sized one in just a couple of days! When I first got him we put one in his stall and he got quite sick from it within a day. He thought it was the coolest thing ever, apparently. Now we have to ration his minerals so he cant do that.
                  Roseknoll Sporthorses
                  www.roseknoll.net

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                  • #10
                    I have my yearling on Buckeye Gro'N Win and Cadence along with quality grass hay and alfalfa flakes.

                    I looked at switching her to something less expensive like Equine Junior but after comparing the stats and reading up on the importance of ration balancers, I'll shell out the extra $$ to have her healthy and grow to her max potential!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hrsjmpr0614 View Post
                      By ration balancer, as far as purina is concerned, do you mean:

                      Equine Junior

                      or

                      Born to Win


                      Especially with the hay situation not being the absolute best, it seems as if Equine Junior would be more suitable. And when I compare Equine Junior to the Nutrena SafeChoice, the only difference is that Equine Junior has 10ppm more copper and 60ppm more Zinc.

                      Again coming from a feed dummy, are those differences significant enough to cause harm? And if so, can I just add a supplement to make up for the difference?

                      I've already emailed Progressive feeds to get some advice from them as well. I want the absolute best for my new baby, so please excuse all the questions, I just want as much info as I can get, and know that you all have way more experience with this than me.
                      I feed Born to Win. Equine Junior is a sweet feed, not a ration balancer. That said, I did feed one of my youngsters Equine Junior from 9 months old to 2 years old before switching her to a Pennfield's feed, and was always very happy with the Equine Junior. My vets always commented on how fantastic she looked, and she has always had an impeccable coat and -- knock wood -- no health problems.
                      Roseknoll Sporthorses
                      www.roseknoll.net

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                      • #12
                        I have my yearling filly on Triple Crown's 30% ration balancer and high quality Timothy and T&A hay.
                        "Sometimes you just have to shut up and color."

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                          Last Questions

                          Okay, so after much thought and research, I've decided that I'm going to slowly make the switch to Purnia Enrich 32 (born to win).

                          Where he is at, during the summer, the hay quality is not the best. It's the best coastal that's around, but I still think it lacks from a T&A, but he is on 24/7 turnout where there is ample grazing.

                          So, he is aprox. 15h, how much purina should I feed. And besides the loose minerals, should I add whole oats or anything else?

                          Someone had mentioned that they had a yearling of similiar height and they feed 2.5 lbs/purina/day and 2lbs/whole cleaned oats/day, split into two feedings.

                          Does that seem like it would be adequate?

                          Thanks again for all the help, I couldn't have made these decisons without all the great advice!!

                          Here are some pics of my boy, I know to some he may not be perfect, but for me he is just perfect!!

                          http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...le/Dillan1.jpg
                          http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...le/Dillan6.jpg
                          http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...le/Dillan8.jpg
                          Last edited by Hrsjmpr0614; May. 22, 2008, 01:30 PM. Reason: added pic links
                          "Finesse, compromise, and an indirect approach to a problem --"going in through the back door" -- will usually get the job done much better than confrontations, force, and fights." George Morris

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                          • #14
                            I belive 1000% in ration balancers. IMO the best are by Progressive Nutrition, Buckeye, Triple Crown, Seminole or McCauley's. If you are in an area where you can get these feeds, I highly recommend them.

                            I really like Progressive and Buckeye because they have such good feeding charts and offer loose minerals that are specifically formulated to use with their ration balancers. You can find feeding charts on both the Progressive and Buckeye websites.

                            I use whole oats as additional calories for the horses that need them. Some do, some do not. You need to go by your eye on that. Some prefer to use a fat supplement rather than oats.
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