• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Lutalyse-What should I expect??

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Lutalyse-What should I expect??

    I have four mares that will be getting a Lutalyse shot today as I am hoping to have them cycle together as closely as possible. I had them on 15 days of ReguMate and then will be giving the Lutalyse today. I know they can still cycle on the ReguMate and that P&E is the way to go. Unfortunately, I had already bought the ReguMate and Lutalyse before I figured that one out

    So...the vet said after the shot is administered they may show signs of colic and will need to be walked. I am wondering what are YOUR experiences with the Lutalyse, and typically how long did it take for the reaction to show (if your horse did react)? I have Banamine on hand...if they show signs of colic, would you recommend giving a shot of Banamine if the signs were severe enough?

    I would really appreciate any/all information as I'm pretty nervous about this actually...these girls are my life and I want to make sure I know what to expect for them!

    Thanks in advance~

  • #2
    The effects of Lutalyse are short, but your mares probably will sweat and act uncomfortable for a few minutes. Some mares will react more than others. We have given many Lutalyse shots over the years but the first time I saw it used it was scarey A Vet I worked for actually gave a mare 10 cc's of Lutalyse. That poor mare was miserable for about 30 minutes. The dosage should have been 1 cc.
    Patty
    www.rivervalefarm.com
    Follow us on facebook - https://www.facebook.com/pages/River...ref=ts&fref=ts

    Comment


    • #3
      I've given it a few times and it can be scary if you weren't warned. One mares sweated so bad that I hosed her to try to help make her more comfortable. One mare went down and acted like she was in labor. I don't know for sure but from what I've seen it looks like horrible menstrual cramps. It didn't last too long with the ones I've seen.
      There is no secret so close as that between a rider and his horse-Robert Smith Surtees
      Breeding TBs, Connemaras and TB/Conn crosses for eventing
      www.twistoffateeventing.com

      Comment


      • #4
        It's not colic, it's uterine cramping. I've never walked one for that. It can be scary though, the first time you see it - BUT it all depends on the mare. Some are seriously affected, some are not.
        Tranquility Farm - Proud breeder of Born in the USA Sport Horses, and Cob-sized Warmbloods
        Now apparently completely invisible!

        Comment


        • #5
          I far prefer using the micro dose method of lutalyse now. Even if only a short period of discomfort, why put the mare through that if you don't have to?

          The process is on the Equine Reproduction website.
          Tracy Geller
          www.sixpoundfarm.com
          Find me on Facebook!

          Comment


          • #6
            http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum...light=lutalyse
            Tracy Geller
            www.sixpoundfarm.com
            Find me on Facebook!

            Comment

            • Original Poster

              #7
              Thanks everyone for all the replies! I am thinking that I may do 1/10th cc for two days in a row as it sounds easier on my mares. I know how crappy I feel when my cramps hit...I don't want them to go through that...top it off with its only about 40 degrees here and rainy, I don't want anyone getting sick if they get sweaty!

              Comment


              • #8
                Definitely use the micro doses. So much easier and just as effective.
                www.glenhillfarm.com
                www.learntolikepink.com my journey with breast cancer
                http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petalu...2907692?ref=ts

                Comment


                • #9
                  The dose for lutalyse is .2 (2/10s of a cc, 2 days in a row)

                  I wouldn't do anything else, and PLEASE tell your vet about the dose. I had a mare colic badly twice after a OLD dose of lutalyse. She coliced bad enough that the vet said to ship her to the EMC if I wanted to save her. The rest have just been horribly painful, and SO worried.

                  I have been using the .2 dose for years and years. They come in at the same number of days too, and I have even gotten busy and forgot to give the 2nd dose a few times, and just the single dose has worked, although I admit to slightly heavy on the .2 (more like .25) as I want to make sure they get the full .2

                  If you make a believer out of your vet, mares in the entire area will thank you!

                  Comment

                  • Original Poster

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fairview Horse Center View Post
                    The dose for lutalyse is .2 (2/10s of a cc, 2 days in a row)

                    I wouldn't do anything else, and PLEASE tell your vet about the dose. I had a mare colic badly twice after a OLD dose of lutalyse. She coliced bad enough that the vet said to ship her to the EMC if I wanted to save her. The rest have just been horribly painful, and SO worried.

                    I have been using the .2 dose for years and years. They come in at the same number of days too, and I have even gotten busy and forgot to give the 2nd dose a few times, and just the single dose has worked, although I admit to slightly heavy on the .2 (more like .25) as I want to make sure they get the full .2

                    If you make a believer out of your vet, mares in the entire area will thank you!
                    I will definitely let my vet know...it definitely is frustrating as we live in the boonies and only have one "good" vet. The worst part is she knows she is really the only vet around so she jacks her prices up "because she can". Needless to say, I'm not sending my horses to breed with her I keep her happy in other ares, but when she charges twice the amount per horse for breeding, etc., than even Anoka Equine (which is one of the best vet clinics in the country), I don't think so...that price doesn't include farm calls either!

                    Back on track...thanks again for the information and I will be sure to do the two doses. I HATE seeing my girls in any kind of discomfort, and if they don't have to be, they WILL NOT be! I appreciate it!

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      I was going to suggest the microdose too - others beat me to it! The old way - I went out and had a mare DRIPPING in sweat. Sweat pouring off her from the cramps. 10 minutes later, she was hungry and fine, but it was scary. I figure, even if only a few minutes, why do that to the poor girls? Now, I let nature take its course - try not to use hormones unless I absolutely have to.
                      www.MysticOakRanch.com Friesian/Warmblood Crosses, the Ultimate Sporthorse
                      Director, WTF Registry

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        BIGI DITTO to what other breeders have posted. We've used the 2/10th CC dose for two days and fabulous results - especially with using frozen semen. No sweating, cramping, shaking - I used to feel sick when I gave the large dose to my mares and they did that.

                        Plus! it's less expensive and if the Vet left you on big shot you can just squirt the micro dose into another syringe and keep the balance for future use. It doesn't have to be refrigerated and lasts for years.
                        Summit Sporthorses Ltd. Inc.
                        "Breeding Competition Partners & Lifelong Friends"

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          I think it may be better to stop calling it a micro-dose. Just call it the cycling doses, like there is no other option. Call the 2 cc an aborting dose. Or maybe just regular usage, and aborting usage.

                          Sometimes, how people (and vets) think about something (terminology) can make all of the difference in how they feel about it, and their confidence level to prescribe it.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            I tried the 'cycling doses' for the first time this year, and I'm totally converted. Won't ever hit my mare with a big dose again.
                            Equine Web Design http://www.tbconnect.net | Kingsgate Stud home of Legal Jousting (IRE)

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Have you had success using the 'cycling dose' to get rid of a hemorrhagic follicle?
                              I have a young mare with a stubborn one that will not go away. Wondering if I need to break out the big dose for her. Yuck.
                              www.glenhillfarm.com
                              www.learntolikepink.com my journey with breast cancer
                              http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petalu...2907692?ref=ts

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                I haven't used Lutalyse in years.

                                My vet and most of the repro vets around here use Estrumate, which is for cattle, but works great with horses as well.

                                Dose is 1cc ...you seldom see the colic and sweating and cramps that I used to with LL.

                                I wonder if you can use micro doses with Estrumate?

                                Equine Repro?

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by genevieveg17 View Post
                                  Have you had success using the 'cycling dose' to get rid of a hemorrhagic follicle?
                                  I have a young mare with a stubborn one that will not go away. Wondering if I need to break out the big dose for her. Yuck.
                                  No research supports Prosteglandin eliminating hemorrhagics The only thing that seems to fix those is time... Check her every month, she may let it go in time to breed later in the season. I've had those damn things stick around for months... Then let go mid-Summer (or not).

                                  Interesting story - last year, one of my mares developed one - we had bred her, when we did the ultrasound, the vet said nope, she developed a hemorrhagic follicle (and she'd done it the year before, so I was ready to dump her, except the market is so bad). Well, this Spring, she hadn't cycled, I'm thinking to myself, dang, I've never HEARD of one of those darn annovular follicles sticking around THIS long. Had my new vet ultrasound her to figure out what was going on, and she got KICKED by my 9 month old hemorrhagic follicle who has developed legs, head, and body
                                  www.MysticOakRanch.com Friesian/Warmblood Crosses, the Ultimate Sporthorse
                                  Director, WTF Registry

                                  Comment

                                  • Original Poster

                                    #18
                                    Well, I gave all my mares the "cycling dose" and want to extend a HUGE thank you for suggesting that! They showed absolutely NO change whatsoever although I was like a worried mother peeking at them for two hours! They will get their second "cycling dose" tomorrow and I'm hoping you will all make a believer out of me. Even if it doesn't work (don't worry, I have no doubts), my mare's comfort is my main concern, and I would rather not have them go through that big "shock" and not cycle when I am hoping they will than shock their system. I will keep you all updated as they are going to the vet's on Monday to be ultrasounded. Wish us luck!

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Kyzteke View Post
                                      I haven't used Lutalyse in years.

                                      My vet and most of the repro vets around here use Estrumate, which is for cattle, but works great with horses as well.

                                      Dose is 1cc ...you seldom see the colic and sweating and cramps that I used to with LL.

                                      I wonder if you can use micro doses with Estrumate?

                                      Equine Repro?
                                      Yes, you can use the micro dose with Estrumate (Cloprostenol). Indeed when using Estrumate (Cloprostenol) you only need to give one 1/10th dose - no need for the two days in a row.

                                      Kathy St.Martin
                                      Equine Reproduction Short Courses
                                      http://www.equine-reproduction.com
                                      Equine-Reproduction.com Now offering one on one customized training!
                                      Leg-Up Equestrian Assistance Program, Inc. A 501(c)(3) non-profit charity

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by FriesianX View Post
                                        No research supports Prosteglandin eliminating hemorrhagics
                                        Not true!! Read the article on our site at http://www.equine-reproduction.com/articles/AHF.shtml

                                        Kathy St.Martin
                                        Equine Reproduction Short Courses
                                        http://www.equine-reproduction.com
                                        Equine-Reproduction.com Now offering one on one customized training!
                                        Leg-Up Equestrian Assistance Program, Inc. A 501(c)(3) non-profit charity

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X