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Liver/Chocolate chestnut with a white mane?

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  • Liver/Chocolate chestnut with a white mane?

    I have a one month old colt that is shedding out very dark. His full brother did not do this and is a red chestnut with a white mane and tail.

    Will this guy stay dark since his brother never shedded dark like him? I would LOVE to have a dark chestnut with a white mane and tail
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  • #2
    Wouldn't flaxen be so cool

    I loved the color of this stallion

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      #3
      Oh, I know he will be a flaxen as I can already see it growing in and his full brother has the white mane and tail. But if I could get that on a dark chocolate chestnut? I am holding my breath.
      The Inverted Y
      Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
      2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
      www.allanglos.net

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      • #4
        Hmmm, I don't want to be a kill-joy but the wear marks on the hollows of his hocks look like normal red chestnut to me.

        I'm betting he will be a usual flaxen chestnut.

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        • #5
          Yep, it happens! I had one from a grey sire and a bay dam. Liver with a flaxen mane and tail! LOVED IT!
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          • #6
            It's MUCH more common for chestnut foals to shed very dark the first time, than it is for them to shed to a "normal" chestnut color. So no, don't at all count on him maturing to a liver color
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              #7
              Does it help that his dam is a liver chestnut?
              The Inverted Y
              Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
              2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
              www.allanglos.net

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                #8
                Here is his full brother at the same age, then at 6 months.
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                Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
                2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
                www.allanglos.net

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                • #9
                  Gosh, wouldn't that be something to have a liver with flaxen! With my liver chestnut Don Alfredo colt, he made it known fairly quickly that he would not be red and by the time of his inspection (he would have been 5 months by then) he was clearly a liver. He began shedding out dark early. I don't think it matters that the dam in this case is a liver although the "color experts" here might need to chime in.
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                  • #10
                    Yes, it does indeed help that a parent is liver.

                    The sibling is awesome!!
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                    • #11
                      Take a look at this German pony stallion.
                      Dark liver chestnut, flaxen and silver mane and tail, big white face with 2 blue eyes, and 4 high socks. The most stunning pony I have ever seen.

                      http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ahey/002-1.jpg

                      http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ahey/028-1.jpg
                      RoseLane Sportponies
                      Golden State - 2012 Bundeschampion & 2014 USDF Horse of the Year
                      Golden West - 2014 & 2015 Bundeschampion Pony Stallion
                      Petit Marc Aurel- FEI Dressage Pony Stallion

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                      • #12
                        honeylips, I agree, gorgeous pony!I wouldn't mind one like that!

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by JB View Post
                          Yes, it does indeed help that a parent is liver.

                          The sibling is awesome!!
                          Thanks

                          My poor guy is probably wondering why I keep getting close to his face and peering all over. I keep looking for a sign of his true color

                          I'll post updated photos after he sheds some more.

                          Here are other foals by the same stallion out of different mares. (One is his full brother). So am confident the mane and tail will be white. Now if that coat color stays chocolate. Still holding breath
                          Attached Files
                          The Inverted Y
                          Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
                          2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
                          www.allanglos.net

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                          • #14
                            Same stallion different mares? Wow, is he ever a flaxen producer!!
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                              #15
                              Here are some current photos at age 6 weeks. Still shedding chocolate colored
                              Attached Files
                              The Inverted Y
                              Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
                              2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
                              www.allanglos.net

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                              • Original Poster

                                #16
                                The bay colt in the photo is by Jones Hall.
                                The Inverted Y
                                Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
                                2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
                                www.allanglos.net

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                                • #17
                                  Well, he's going to continue to shed dark this time - it's what chestnut foals do LOL The key will be next Spring's shed, and even a bigger key the following Spring
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                                  • Original Poster

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by JB View Post
                                    Well, he's going to continue to shed dark this time - it's what chestnut foals do LOL The key will be next Spring's shed, and even a bigger key the following Spring
                                    Except his full brother did not. He shed red and stayed that way. So my fingers are still crossed and my breath on hold until he sheds more
                                    The Inverted Y
                                    Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
                                    2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
                                    www.allanglos.net

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                                    • #19
                                      He's very handsome and liver with flaxen would be amazing!

                                      I'm intrigued how your stallion consistently passes on his flaxen. Is flaxen dominant?

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                                      • #20
                                        Flaxen is thought to be recessive. You have the greatest chance of flaxen if both parents are visibly flaxen. If you have black-based horses, they can still carry flaxen, it just doesn't show on them
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