• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Warmblood Stallion Suggestions for a very pretty Percheron Mare

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #21
    I recently saw a video and couple of pics of a Draft/WB cross by Waterford (Hanoverian) - it was a 2 year old, and a lovely mover. It was a heavier type 2 year old, but well proportioned and light on its feet. I'm not sure I'd look for anything too light - you could end up with something huge bodied but too light in the bone - too divergent types don't always make a nice "medium" offspring.

    If she's crossed well to Saddlebreds in the past, why not look for a nice, sport type Saddlebred? You know that cross works!

    Edgar, here on COTH, has several Warmblood boys - you might ask him if he's crossed any of his boys to a draft type horse...

    Comment


    • #22
      I LOVE Oskar! He'd be a nice choice.
      ~Amy~ TrakehNERD clique
      *Bugs 5/86-3/10 OTTB Mare* RIP lovely Lady, I miss you
      *Frodo '03 Anglo Trakehner Gelding*
      My Facebook

      Comment


      • #23
        Originally posted by EquineLVR View Post
        A Fine Romance

        LOVE him, I wish I had a suitable mare
        I'm not sure if I grew out of stupid or ran out of brave.

        Practicing Member of the Not too Klassy for Boxed Wine Clique

        Comment

        • Original Poster

          #24
          Freestyle and Yeager were also suggested and I like both, very much but I spoke with Joe Pimental today and he himself crossed Oskar on a Percheron mare he had with spectacular results and since Oskar is 21 and not getting any younger, I think I'm going to go ahead and use him. Thank you for all the input though.
          Fat Cat Farm Sporthorses on Facebook
          Fat Cat Farm Sporthorses Website and Blog

          Comment


          • #25
            Fantastic! Looking forward to seeing photos of your foal next year.

            Comment


            • #26
              I loved this foal by our homozygous stallion, Counterclaim, out of a Percheron mare....Counterclaim is 75% TB, 16.2 and I think crosses fantasticly on a heavier mare..........
              (this is the black and white)

              The bay pinto lovely filly is owned by Janet Wilson of Pinetop (eventing) in Thompson, GA........by Claim to Fame out of a Clydesdale/TB mare. This is a LOVELY filly who Janet says has perfect conformation and gets lots of compliments from dressage and eventing folks!! Shown here as a yearling, Janet just told me she's even prettier as a two year old and has never had an "ugly" period!! Claim to Fame is an Oldenburg, but has a lot of TB in there and lovely refined conformation!
              Attached Files
              www.flyingcolorsfarm.comHome of pinto stallion Claim to Fame and his homozygous son, Counterclaim. Friend us on Facebook!https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Fl...04678589573428

              Comment


              • #27
                I am not sure how much height you need to retain but I have really wanted to see a cross out a heavy boned WB mare or a nice draft with Empire's Power. http://empirespower.com/empirespower.htm

                He has sired black too which means he is either heterozygous for agouti or negative for agouti. He adds pretty and incredible movement with correct legs and beautiful necks and toplines.
                Chris
                Ladybug Hill--Hunters and Ponies
                WWSD? (what would Suerte do?)

                Comment


                • #28
                  Originally posted by Ladybug Hill
                  I am not sure how much height you need to retain but I have really wanted to see a cross out a heavy boned WB mare or a nice draft with Empire's Power.
                  I actually would like to see that as well. I told Patti some time ago that his impact would be crossed with horse mares due to his height. I've seen some nice ones this year! I'd push that market a bunch if it were me.
                  Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

                  Comment


                  • #29
                    Originally posted by equusnight View Post
                    River Oaks, your boy is gorgeous!
                    Thank you

                    FCF, good luck with Oskar!
                    River Oaks Farm - home of the Elite Book Friesian Sporthorse Grand Prix dressage stallion Lexington - sire of four consecutive FSA National Inspection Champions. Endorsing the FSA.

                    Comment

                    • Original Poster

                      #30
                      Originally posted by florida foxhunter View Post
                      I loved this foal by our homozygous stallion, Counterclaim, out of a Percheron mare....Counterclaim is 75% TB, 16.2 and I think crosses fantasticly on a heavier mare..........
                      (this is the black and white)

                      The bay pinto lovely filly is owned by Janet Wilson of Pinetop (eventing) in Thompson, GA........by Claim to Fame out of a Clydesdale/TB mare. This is a LOVELY filly who Janet says has perfect conformation and gets lots of compliments from dressage and eventing folks!! Shown here as a yearling, Janet just told me she's even prettier as a two year old and has never had an "ugly" period!! Claim to Fame is an Oldenburg, but has a lot of TB in there and lovely refined conformation!
                      I really like Counterclaim too and had actually visited your website again just this past Friday considering him, but since I'm really hoping for some great dressage potential and Oskar won't be available a whole lot longer, that persuaded me.
                      Fat Cat Farm Sporthorses on Facebook
                      Fat Cat Farm Sporthorses Website and Blog

                      Comment

                      • Original Poster

                        #31
                        Originally posted by MysticOakRanch View Post
                        If she's crossed well to Saddlebreds in the past, why not look for a nice, sport type Saddlebred? You know that cross works!
                        I know, if it works, don't fix it, but I have been curious if she would also produce well with a lighter warmblood and since I have (or will) two GG's out of her, wanted to see what I will get. She is just ten so if I want to go the Saddlebred route again, there is time.
                        Fat Cat Farm Sporthorses on Facebook
                        Fat Cat Farm Sporthorses Website and Blog

                        Comment


                        • #32
                          Originally posted by VirginiaBred View Post
                          I actually would like to see that as well. I told Patti some time ago that his impact would be crossed with horse mares due to his height. I've seen some nice ones this year! I'd push that market a bunch if it were me.
                          Thank you Virginia Bred and Ladybug.
                          Empire's Power has been doing the job in the pony market to upsize with great success and in the horse world to decrease size and refine.
                          Windswept Stables-Specializing in Ponies
                          Sales, Breaking,Training,Showing, Stud Service

                          Home of 2008 Sire of Year Reserve Champion
                          Pony Hunter Breeding - Empires Power

                          www.EmpiresPower.com

                          Comment


                          • #33
                            Why don't you take a look at Innkeeper by Secretariat. He is now standing at Virginia Tech in VA. He's a wonderful TB and produced a very nice elegant Oldenburg mare out of our SWB mare. He has a super personality and temperament and is also very handsome.
                            Summit Sporthorses Ltd. Inc.
                            "Breeding Competition Partners & Lifelong Friends"

                            Comment


                            • #34
                              Originally posted by MysticOakRanch View Post
                              Edgar, here on COTH, has several Warmblood boys - you might ask him if he's crossed any of his boys to a draft type horse...
                              Based on your criteria, I was thinking Pablo. All of the horses I've seen by him have been lovely, modern types of medium size and very elegant. Nothing big and heavy.

                              Westporte is another one to look at if you change your mind. He is mostly used for hunter breeding, but is dressage bred, and all of his offspring I've seen have all been lovely, elegant, good movers who are very pretty to look at.

                              Comment


                              • #35
                                I have to ask.....????? Did you use Oskar? He is a very fine boy and would LOVE to see your results
                                Draumr Hesta Farm
                                "Wenn Du denkst es geht nicht mehr, kommt von irgendwo ein kleines Licht daher"
                                Member of the COTH Ignorant Disrepectful F-bombs!*- 2Dogs Farm

                                Comment

                                • Original Poster

                                  #36
                                  Not this year. It's been dreadfully hot here and my mare actually stopped sweating two weeks prior to foaling and has been on meds since to keep her sweating. She foaled and delivered this year's foal fine, but I spoke with Joe Pimentel and decided to try for early spring next year instead. I just don't have the heart to put the big, black mare through another midsummer heavy pregnancy.
                                  Fat Cat Farm Sporthorses on Facebook
                                  Fat Cat Farm Sporthorses Website and Blog

                                  Comment


                                  • #37
                                    Glad it all worked out for you! and I agree with you on the breeding end of things. I can't even imagine having a foal in this type of heat that we've been having!!!
                                    Emerald Acres standing the ATA, Trakehner Verband, sBs, RPSI, and ISR/OLD NA Approved Stallion, Tatendrang. Visit us at our Facebook Farm Page as well!

                                    Comment

                                    • Original Poster

                                      #38
                                      The foal has actually done very well. Our pastures have lots of shady oak trees and the property gradually slopes down hill, so particularly the pasture the two mares and foal are in, gets alot of shade. It's Mom who has been having such a hard time with the heat. The colt just snoozes the day away and is active morning and evening.

                                      Another thing I've noticed, the flies are not nearly as bad now as I suspect the extreme heat kills all the larvae. The gnats can be particularly bad here in spring and they get into any opening and exacerbate any wound. So at least we're not having to contend with those in late summer. But the heat and humidity have indeed been brutal.
                                      Fat Cat Farm Sporthorses on Facebook
                                      Fat Cat Farm Sporthorses Website and Blog

                                      Comment


                                      • #39
                                        Good luck with your Oskar foal.

                                        If you plan to breed again, I would suggest you look at Edelweiss de Bonce for a possible WB cross--SF, former GP dressage horse who is big but not light. I'd think he would cross beautifully with a light Percheron mare. The phenotypes aren't too terribly off. Most SFs are high percentage TB.

                                        For TBs, Sea Accounts is actually doing dressage these days with good success. He's full TB and approved RPSI.
                                        Last edited by vineyridge; Aug. 9, 2011, 01:06 PM.
                                        "I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay."
                                        Thread killer Extraordinaire

                                        Comment


                                        • #40
                                          How about Foxwind?

                                          I encourage you to consider Foxwind SL. He is a Trakehner with some TB in his background. I have a client this year that bred her Percheron mare to Foxwind with the expectation he will offer refinement. He has lovely Dressage type movement and consistently scores high 60s/low 70s on his tests.

                                          He has produced a couple phenomenal Clyde/Hackney crosses for another client (a little different than a Perch, I know, but she was looking for the same thing, refinement and athleticism)

                                          Photos of mares and foals are (and will be) on our website. Kenya is the Clyde/Hackney who produced foals in 2007 and 2008 and Colleen is the Percheron that is expecting for 2012.

                                          Best of luck with your big beauty.
                                          Cindy Geres

                                          Home of Foxwind SL (Cdn Trakehner and Cdn Sport Horse Approved)
                                          www.sprucelane.net

                                          Comment

                                          Working...
                                          X