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"moves like a freak..." - what does this mean?

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  • "moves like a freak..." - what does this mean?

    I have been seeing this phrase quite a bit lately, esp. in reference to hunters.
    Can someone please explain what it means? And is it a good thing to have a horse that "moves like a freak"?

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    Yes, that's a good thing. We hunters have a saying "freaky talented" and "freaky mover" which means that they are exceptionally talented or exceptionally good movers; "freaks" or exceptions to what you see everyday
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    • #3
      It means moving top of the line for whatever discipline is being referred to - a horse moving like a freak for hunters would not be moving like a freak for dressage...means the same as shit hot. Don't you like shit hot horses?

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      • #4
        This is a great example of the difference between American English and UK English ... if you said that a horse moved like a freak in the UK the owner would probably sue you - and if you were trying to sell it, any potential buyers would run a mile!!! Basically, you would be saying that this horse is seriously weird ....

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        • #5
          HAY... don't blame *all* Murkins!

          Up he'ah that would *not* be a compliment either.

          Then again, we are rednecks in the boonies at the edge of the earth...

          And I've never heard the 'hot' comment before either.
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          • #6
            I have heard of "that horse is really hot $hit" or "She (horse or human) really thinks she is hot $hit" but not vice versa.


            In the racehorse world a "freak" is generally a very, very good thing.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by chrissymack View Post
              Yes, that's a good thing. We hunters have a saying "freaky talented" and "freaky mover" which means that they are exceptionally talented or exceptionally good movers; "freaks" or exceptions to what you see everyday
              Ditto to this. The horse is a "freak of nature" but in a good way, meaning that it's exceptional.

              Weltall is (in my non-educated opinion) an example of this for dressage.

              www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHvMIgJqsfU

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              • #8
                That video does show wonderful expression in front, not so much behind. Freaky dressage movement to me is Quaterback.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Fairview Horse Center View Post
                  That video does show wonderful expression in front, not so much behind. Freaky dressage movement to me is Quaterback.
                  Ditto. I believe I described his movement as freakish in another post. Freakish as in extreme.
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                  • #10
                    But is freakish or extreme movement really a good thing? I personally am not so sure....

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                    • #11
                      I think it's a bad thing.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Daydream Believer View Post
                        But is freakish or extreme movement really a good thing? I personally am not so sure....
                        I am not so sure either, which is why I think the term freakish can be particularly a propos.
                        In the case of Quaterback, I find him to be very compelling to watch. However, I am not yet convinced that that movement is correct or even necessarily desirable. I am reserving judgment until I can see how it is passed on in his offspring.
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                        • #13
                          Has Quaterback ever even done anything besides trot and canter around a ring? I'd be wary breeding to a horse with such a record of non-performance.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by canticle View Post
                            Has Quaterback ever even done anything besides trot and canter around a ring? I'd be wary breeding to a horse with such a record of non-performance.
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPa7cTjlvA8

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                            • #15
                              Thank you! My point exactly...

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by canticle View Post
                                Has Quaterback ever even done anything besides trot and canter around a ring? I'd be wary breeding to a horse with such a record of non-performance.
                                He is still a very young horse, so that is a bit of a silly statement.

                                Also, he does not have a "record of non-performance," which implies he tried, but failed, in competition. He does lack a performance record, i.e., he is arguably still unproven, but given his age, I can't imagine what more anyone would expect to see from him.
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                                • #17
                                  I've never heard good HUNTER movement defined by the word "freak", only dressage movement. I have heard it in regards to a hunter jump though. And I can't imagine you would ever want a hunter to move like a freak....it's called 'daisy cutter' for a reason
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by YankeeLawyer View Post
                                    He is still a very young horse, so that is a bit of a silly statement.

                                    Also, he does not have a "record of non-performance," which implies he tried, but failed, in competition. He does lack a performance record, i.e., he is arguably still unproven, but given his age, I can't imagine what more anyone would expect to see from him.
                                    I'm just disturbed that so many people choose to flock to the latest stallion du jour. If I wanted to breed a campaign horse for the 20m circle, I'm sure Quaterback would be great, based on his past performances. But the burden is on him to prove that he is capable of more. Are people really that stupid?

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by canticle View Post
                                      I'm just disturbed that so many people choose to flock to the latest stallion du jour. If I wanted to breed a campaign horse for the 20m circle, I'm sure Quaterback would be great, based on his past performances. But the burden is on him to prove that he is capable of more. Are people really that stupid?
                                      Hes five. What would you like him to have done? Grand Prix?

                                      People on this board love to cry go slow go slow when someone asks about breaking their colts or fillys, yet finally someone appears to be taking things slow and they are getting put down for it. Doesnt make sense to me.
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by zelensky View Post
                                        This is a great example of the difference between American English and UK English ... if you said that a horse moved like a freak in the UK the owner would probably sue you - and if you were trying to sell it, any potential buyers would run a mile!!! Basically, you would be saying that this horse is seriously weird ....
                                        Where I come from I haven't heard this term used in this way either and I am born and bred New Jersey. Sh*t hot is a new one for me too and sounds stupid if you ask me. However I can see where the term freakish or like a freak could be used in this way in a form of slang. It makes sense, I guess.
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