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  • Totilas foal in upcoming Vechta auction

    Well, despite reports of the foal market being down, Oldenburg has found some cuties for the auction this Saturday - including this Totilas son.
    http://www.oldenburger-pferde.com/me...nSMS11__01.jpg

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    Now that is some kind of pedigree!! I am a sucker for Rubinstein and Argentinus.
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    • #3
      http://internationalsporthorsejourna...lasrubinstein/

      Very nice foal. I had to chuckle at the over the top description in the link above, though. I guess "stunning" bespeaks North American barn blindness, but " a poem without words" is your objective breeder speak. It gave me a chuckle. Nice foal, though. I'd not turn him out of my stable.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by europa View Post
        Now that is some kind of pedigree!! I am a sucker for Rubinstein and Argentinus.
        Me too. I have a 4-year-old in my barn with a Rubinstein-Airport (Argentan) pedigree. She's got a million dollar mind with exceptional rideability. She's even pretty. I have been toying with the idea of breeding her, but want her ridden and shown more first.
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        • #5
          Interesting mare line that they choose. Wonne had one daughter, Argone, who has three daughters.Two daughters have been bred and have produced FEI level performers--in show jumping and two of the sj are licensed stallions. Argona is not one of them.
          Last edited by vineyridge; Jun. 2, 2011, 10:14 AM.
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          • #6
            I've asked before but nobody has responded. What does Totilas improve (or not)?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by back in the saddle View Post
              I've asked before but nobody has responded. What does Totilas improve (or not)?
              It seems to me that the answer will not really be known until he has enough foals on the ground. To look at one or two doesn't really give an idea of how he stamps his foals.
              We don't get less brave; we get a bigger sense of self-preservation........

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              • #8
                I love the head and expression on this foal. I’m not sure what else can be said about him, he is a baby, albeit a lovely, leggy, black baby, with nice names in his pedigree, but at this point that is about all you can say about him. Still an all, the “hype” surrounding him is exactly what gets our juices flowing. I think that people buying foals are buying the dream of future greatness. It’s not about making a sound investment, it’s more about the thrill of the gamble… the thrill is worth the risk. If we were there ringside, with a few drinks … and a great auction atmosphere, we’d bid on this baby in a heart beat. And sure, there are no guarantees, but some of why we do this is that it’s fun to be part of the dream. Raising this guy and being a part of the process itself is the best part of the journey.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 2tempe View Post
                  It seems to me that the answer will not really be known until he has enough foals on the ground. To look at one or two doesn't really give an idea of how he stamps his foals.
                  There's actually a whole facebook page devoted to nothing but Totilas foals. (more than 1 or 2) The problem is most don't show what kind of dam they came out of. I think it's possible to see some things at a young age and with this many on the ground, common traits they share should be more clear now.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by back in the saddle View Post
                    I've asked before but nobody has responded. What does Totilas improve (or not)?
                    In addition to what 2Tempe stated, we also cannot really know what he improves until his foal crop starts to have some age on them - about 2-3 years of age for conformation etc., and then waiting to see them under saddle when we can finally determine how rideable and trainable they are, let alone how athletically gifted they may be.

                    We may not know what the dams look like, but a good sire shows a general stamping of type across the general crop field, i.e. some sires consistently through their head, neck and shoulder, some throw a consistent hindquarter or become known as a front end improver. A good sire shows some sort of consistency over a broad spectrum of mare types that are bred to him, and at inspections the judges make notes and the verbands collect some of those statistics and that is how they start to determine what sort of mares go best with any given stallion and what their breeding indexes become.
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                    • #11
                      That's true, but with my filly who is only 3 weeks old, I can already tell her shoulder is more laid back than her dam. It's comments like this is what I'm looking for. Nothing major, just generalities. If people only commented like this, I think an overall picture could begin to form of what it 'looks like' he does.

                      It also looks like to me, (please speak up if you disagree) that he puts on a decent neck placement. But of course you can't see what the dams look like. So is it from him or not? Obvious things like this I think can be seen at an early early age.
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                      • #12
                        Yes, true.........but we need 2-3 years of foal crops to see those general trends. I think 2011 is his second foal crop year? It might be a good idea to bring this thought up again in the fall after the fall inspections because by then the people residing in Europe (and a few individuals from N.A. who fly over) will have attended the inspections and would have had a chance to see a greater number of foals in living moving color to start forming a general picture of his stamping traits. I assure you, there are a number of breeders attentively paying attention to this very topic!
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                          Originally posted by Home Again Farm View Post
                          http://internationalsporthorsejourna...lasrubinstein/

                          Very nice foal. I had to chuckle at the over the top description in the link above, though. I guess "stunning" bespeaks North American barn blindness, but " a poem without words" is your objective breeder speak. It gave me a chuckle. Nice foal, though. I'd not turn him out of my stable.
                          Agree about the description! And about the foal - he looks interesting for sure.

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                          • #14
                            Has the auction started yet? If not, what time is this guy going to be sold?
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                              105000€
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by alexandra View Post
                                105000€


                                How did it move?
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Cartier
                                  I love the head and expression on this foal.
                                  Isn't it beautiful?
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                                  • #18
                                    105K Euros is a helluva of a good return on a 5K stud fee for an April 4, 2011 foal. This is big money of the TB racing sales gambles sort. In fact, he's selling even younger than at the TB weanling sales.

                                    For that kind of money, the foal should float and have wings.
                                    Last edited by vineyridge; Jun. 4, 2011, 02:27 PM.
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                                    • #19
                                      That's amazing! I was trying to watch the livestream online - but it wouldn't work. Would have loved to see him moving!

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                                      • #20
                                        Does anyone have video from the auction???
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