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Is jumping 8' a world record (or close)?

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  • Is jumping 8' a world record (or close)?

    Just wondering -- saw on Headline News where a THOROUGHBRED (!!) in a hurdle
    race was running along sans his jockey and CLEARED an 8' solid board fence into the crowd. Somebody needs to buy him and see if that skill can translate to a course under a rider! Wonder what his breeding is!
    PennyG

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      Pretty sure it's gotta be that Aussie steeplechaser that jumped off the course. The height of that solid board fence was reported to be between two and three meters.
      "Reason is, and ought to be, the slave of passions." David Hume

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        http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/306390

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          Originally posted by TKR View Post
          Just wondering -- saw on Headline News where a THOROUGHBRED (!!) in a hurdle
          race was running along sans his jockey and CLEARED an 8' solid board fence into the crowd. Somebody needs to buy him and see if that skill can translate to a course under a rider! Wonder what his breeding is!
          PennyG
          I had heard it was a 6 foot wall.
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            I am just repeating what was said by Headline News -- could have mistranslated the footage -- I wouldn't know what 2 meters translates to in feet or what is accurate. Looked like a big wall, though!
            PennyG

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              In reponse to the original question in the title of the post...

              No, it would not have been a world record. The highest jump (with a rider) is 8' 3-1/2" (not official because it wasn't in front of a large enough crowd, I believe), and the highest on official record is 8' 1-1/4".
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              • #8
                Two meters or about 6.5 feet.

                Still a big fence. On the video, he does look like a very good jumper.

                However, I knew another flat race horse who dumped his jockey and jumped a 7' chain link fence. Owner bought him thinking he would make a top class jumper.

                Most frustrating horse....had all the scope in the world. Enough for a world class GP jumper....but a major screw loose. He was with a very good trainer...but they never could get him to keep his marbles enough to be competitive.

                Looking at the solid fence this horse jumped (and the police car afterwards)...he certainly has the athletic ability but I'd question if he has a mind to be decent sport horse. I suspect there are a few screws loose between the ears. Any horse that jumps a fence like that with no rider.....nuts.
                ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **

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                  The conversion table says 6'6.7" -- if that is accurate for the wall, he sure did clear a big one! Here is his pedigree -- http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pe...ts_indicator=Y --

                  I don't know that it's fair to judge him mentally based on that and not knowing all the circumstances or his history. He's athletic enough to consider! He's had 46 starts and is a winner, durable and obviously sane enough to keep racing.
                  PennyG

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                    Originally posted by TKR View Post
                    The conversion table says 6'6.7" -- if that is accurate for the wall, he sure did clear a big one! Here is his pedigree -- http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pe...ts_indicator=Y --

                    I don't know that it's fair to judge him mentally based on that and not knowing all the circumstances or his history. He's athletic enough to consider! He's had 46 starts and is a winner, durable and obviously sane enough to keep racing.
                    PennyG

                    possibly...but I'm an event rider and I wouldn't want to sit on a horse that would either jump a jump without knowing what's on the landing side (without a rider they trust telling them it is safe) OR that would jump into a crowd of people.

                    Unless he was being chased by a tiger...and even then not sure. Doesn't show a whole lot of self preservation IMO.
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                    • #11
                      Huge difference between having a rider on the back and not.

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                      • #12
                        Horse may have a screw loose, but he's really got a jumping and eventing AUS-NZ pedigree. Luskin Star on the bottom is very close in the pedigree of one of Megan Jones's 4* event horses, IIRC. Rest of the pedigree is darned well proved in sport.
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                          Video of Huaso setting world's high jump record, 8'2", in 1949.
                          www.pegasustv.org/archives/player_0368.html

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                            The Guardian in the UK had a story quoting the chief executive of Racing Victoria, the Aussie state where the race was being held, as saying the perimeter fence was 8 feet tall.

                            The race was a 3 3/4 mile chase with 33 jumps. Horse had already lost its jockey before it decided to escape.
                            http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011...se-jumps-crowd
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                              It looked like he was still trying to follow the other horses, not that he has a screw loose. It's amazing no one was killed or seriously hurt.

                              He definitely has a lot of jumping talent that's for sure.

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                                Originally posted by grayarabpony View Post
                                It looked like he was still trying to follow the other horses, not that he has a screw loose. It's amazing no one was killed or seriously hurt.

                                He definitely has a lot of jumping talent that's for sure.

                                True...but it wouldn't have been that hard for him to follow the other horses over the much smaller race jumps. I see loose horses in jump races all the time. Never seen one make a decision like this one did. I've seen them jump smaller gates to get back to the stabling areas....and seen then turn around to follow the horses in the race when they get a bit off course....but not jump a jump that is solid and over the horse's head.

                                I absolutely agree that this horse has jumping talent in terms of scope....but it also clearly has poor decision making. Not always the best or safest combination. That was my point. It almost bothered me MORE that he didn't look in panic mode on the video---that's the screw loose that I'm talking about. He made a choice to jump a fence above his head INTO a serious crowd of people and a car....that is not a normal decision for horse.
                                ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **

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                                  I don't think he actually "made a decision" in jumping that wall. I think he was following along and that wall was in the path he was travelling and *without* actually thinking about it, he just jumped it to stay with the pack. He didn't appear hysterical just going along. In the heat of the moment animals and people do things they wouldn't ordinarily do. I don't think it's fair to assess him based on that.
                                  PennyG

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                                    Originally posted by TKR View Post
                                    I don't think he actually "made a decision" in jumping that wall. I think he was following along and that wall was in the path he was travelling and *without* actually thinking about it, he just jumped it to stay with the pack. He didn't appear hysterical just going along. In the heat of the moment animals and people do things they wouldn't ordinarily do. I don't think it's fair to assess him based on that.
                                    PennyG

                                    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. As I said...it bothered me MORE that he wasn't hysterical. That is the screw loose to me.....a hysterical horse I can forgive more easily for making such a bad bad decision. A horse that will jump a jump above his head (considerably taller than the race jumps) without knowing what's on the landing or worse--seeing the people and still jumping into that.....is my definition of crazy. They lack self presevation. Crazy--screw loose--doesn't always mean running hysterical....it means making a choice to jump when most sane horses who have an ounce of self preservation would have stopped.
                                    ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by bornfreenowexpensive View Post
                                      I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
                                      We will. He could jump the wall and so he did. How was he to know there were people on the other side?

                                      Kim Walnes tells a story about how the Grey Goose jumped an 8' shed to get out of a pasture during a thunderstorm.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by grayarabpony View Post
                                        We will. He could jump the wall and so he did. How was he to know there were people on the other side?

                                        Kim Walnes tells a story about how the Grey Goose jumped an 8' shed to get out of a pasture during a thunderstorm.

                                        And he was also known as a horse with a screw loose..... But that is still different in my book.
                                        ** Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip. ~Winston Churchill? **

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