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Continental Studbook Accepted into WBFSH as Associate

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  • Continental Studbook Accepted into WBFSH as Associate

    Per a recent newsletter from the WBFSH:

    "At a recent joint meeting of the Board and executive committee a new associate member was accepted: Continental Studbook, located in the United States. We welcome them into the group of WBFSHs current 65 members and 3 associates. See the updated member list on our website here."


    Under new rules adopted sometime just before or during 2010, all new breeding registries must apply and be accepted into the WBFSH first as associates, and new breeding registries are eligible to apply for full membership after completing 5 years of production records. The Continental Studbook will be eligible and will apply for full membership application in 3-5 years.
    Zaffiro Farm - Tewksbury, NJ -
    info@zaffirofarm.com ; www.zaffirofarm.com; www.facebook.com/ZaffiroFarm
    www.continentalstudbook.com; www.facebook.com/ContinentalStudbook

  • #2
    Bravo, Bob!

    A fitting conclusion to your hard work personally as well as that of the Continental Studbook as a whole!
    Sakura Hill Farm
    Now on Facebook

    Young and developing horses for A-circuit jumper and hunter rings.


    • #3
      Congrats and thank you for sharing.
      DIY Journey of Remodeling the Farmette: http://weownblackacre.blogspot.com/


      • #4
        Congratulations - that's a great achievement in a short time.


        • #5
          Congratulations,welcome to the club. The hard work....................continues
          www.rainbowequus.com Home of stallions that actually produced champion hunter, jumper and dressage offspring and now also champion eventers


          • #6
            Wow - another registry. Good luck.
            Summit Sporthorses Ltd. Inc.
            "Breeding Competition Partners & Lifelong Friends"


            • #7

              It will be nice if lively and mutually beneficial synergies develop between the separate breed registries in N.A. and the CS as a unifying factor.

              The model is a good one; I stopped in at the WEG booth, and was intrigued.

              I have to confess to losing track of this initiative since WEG and also wondering why it's not the "North American Continental Studbook," which would accurately and even more obviously promote the "brand."
              Inner Bay Equestrian


              • #8
                There is another registry called North American Studbook.


                • #9


                  After lots of considerations and discussions last year regarding "eventual" registrations of TBs conceived via AI (that I might produce), I had decided to utilize the Continental Stud Book for the purpose of registrations...

                  Now that they are recognized by the WBFSH, that only makes it a certainty that I will utilize the Continental Stud Book!

                  Thanks for the announcement!
                  Gleann Oighrig LLC
                  Showing, Sales, Breeding, and Boarding
                  Manakin-Sabot, Virginia


                  • #10
                    I'm sure that CS will be a successful SB when I look at how they are going to conduct business, this will certainly allow CS breeders to raise great sport horses.
                    "If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster, And treat those two imposters just the same"
                    Rudyard Kipling
                    Quartz Rouge


                    • #11
                      Continental Warmblood

                      Regarding the name, we felt that it needed to be simple, to the point, easy to abbreviate, easy to remember and uniquely American. Something like "Zangersheide Studbook" and Z, and also the Jockey Club, were good examples. The terms North American Warmblood and American Warmblood already existed from use by AWR and AWS and have already been imprinted with specific interpretations by breeders and riders to be associated with AWR and AWS. We did not think any variations on American Warmblood could accurately distinguish the CS brand, breeding model and horses within America.

                      The concept of Continental Warmblood as the American breeding of European descended horses has been well received and has been growing steadily. There is also the possibility to have a Continental Thoroughbred bred specifically for the Olympic sports, but to date there is only one such foal. She is on Sakura Hill's website.

                      From the CS website, here is some brief discussion of the name:

                      Where did the name come from?

                      The name Continental Studbook is a reflection of the North American “continent”, and it also has analogous historical usage going back to American entities such as the Continental Congress and the Continental Army. An unintended but compatible symbolism is created when considering the common reference to “continental” Europe. The bulk of warmbloods used for breeding in the Continental Studbook descend from horses imported from continental Europe.

                      PS. I apologize for using 2 different logins, but for most answers to CS questions I will try to login under the registry account.

                      Regards, Bob


                      • #12
                        Congratulations Bob and to your members.

                        I believe this SB offers an American alternative to Zangersheide, RPSI, ISR/Old, AWR, AWS, not all of which have attempted to maintain a level of quality, or have they necessarily made any attempts to educate their members. I frankly dislike Zbook and RPSI for taking horses that are uniqely American into their fold soley based on the fact that they have marketed well and addressed an underserved market in my opinion. For this reason I applaud your efforts and wish you much success.

                        We may not share a common breeding philosophy, but as for the success of the CS my wishes are in line with your goals. Good luck, and continue with the good fight.

                        Sparling Rock Holsteiners


                        • #13
                          Congratulations and thank you! Now I have two options for my future Flexible offspring out of my Holsteiner mare!


                          • #14
                            What I have never understood is why the US--or at least the Western Hemisphere--hasn't created their own version of the WBFSH rankings. Since only FEI competitions count, any country that is running National competitions (USEF) is out of the running by default. Years ago it was proposed to the (now defunct) FNASHR, yet nothing ever happened.

                            You must understand that WBFSH is a marketing tool, and so far the money is going only one direction.

                            Take that with a grain of salt because I DO respect what WBFSH has done for breeders promoting better record keeping in the FEI, and I really enjoy their annual conferences.


                            • #15
                              Every country has "National" competitions. The USA is no different than every other country.
                              Morningside Stud


                              • #16
                                Congratulations to you and to all the members of the Continental Studbook. A great outcome from, I am sure ,a lot of hard work.
                                Allyn McCracken
                                Sport Horse Breeder


                                • #17
                                  Yes, the US is different. The vast majority of 1.45m and up classes at most major shows are not conducted under FEI rules--therefore do not count toward WBFSH rankings. FEi competitions are a relative rarity here in proportion to the number of major horse shows.


                                  • #18
                                    Thank you everyone for the compliments and comments. There is a lot of work to be done to promote the Americanized breeding of Olympic sport warmbloods, but joining the ranks of the WBFSH was an important step for our breeders in this international industry.

                                    Regarding the domestic ranking and analyses, the systems are basically already in place and have been discussed in depth on this forum. The only issues with the system really are 1) data integrity via accurate recording of pedigrees, 2 ) greater awareness that these records exist, and 3) possibly more user friendly display and marketing of the data. From the registry standpoint, we directly lifetime record every foal with USEF to ensure accurate breeder and pedigree information, the USEF lifetime recording card is integrated into our papers booklet, and we can execute the USEF recording transfer along with the registry ownership transfer. The USEF lifetime recording number is integrated into the UELN registration number, so even if a horse is recorded at a later time without pedigree information, it's pedigree can still be retrieved from the last 7 digits of the registration number (which are the original USEF lifetime number as a foal).

                                    See the links below:





                                    • #19
                                      As the author of the USEF rule change that discounts the price of Life Recording numbers based on age, I say Bravo! Bob. Someone has finally figured out how to make the system work for breeders.


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by r3dd0g View Post
                                        Yes, the US is different. The vast majority of 1.45m and up classes at most major shows are not conducted under FEI rules--therefore do not count toward WBFSH rankings. FEi competitions are a relative rarity here in proportion to the number of major horse shows.
                                        Yes, the USA has a lot of big classes that are national and not international.

                                        But so do a lot of countries in Europe. I know. My horses have competed in them.

                                        And because entries in international shows are strictly regulated it is much more difficult to start in an international show than it is to start in a national show anywhere in the world.
                                        Morningside Stud