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  • Okay, so tell me about gelding recovery

    My 3 y/o is set for castration on April 4th and I am a complete basket case. My heart isn't 100% in it, for one thing, but I've heard some hellaciously scary stories of gelding disasters.

    I'm taking him to the clinic, and he'll stay over night (vets preference) and then be on "light" turnout for 2 days to a week and then out with the boys in the big field. This was my vets order, but I know when my hubby had his horse gelded the vet wanted him as mobile as possible, full turnout plus lunging every day for 2 weeks (I think). I have a lot more respect for my vet, as the other one was a cow vet delved equine, but still.

    What do you guys do with your newly gelded? When can they resume turnout, do you lunge them, anything else I should know?
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    I turn mine out and keep them moving. I have a 6 month old colt scheduled to be gelded tomorrow. He will be done outside (cleaner and the vet prefers it) and then turned out in a paddock with another horse. We keep an eye on bleeding, but the idea is to keep the swelling down through movement. His buddy will keep him moving.

    Good luck with your boy. I'm sure it will go smoothly.
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    • #3
      We cut a four year old last Wednesday...an on-farm standing castration, no complications. He got a penicillin shot & some injectable Bute along with sedation.

      Post procedure - 1 gram of Bute AM & PM for 1 week. Turnout - as much as we can give him after the first 24 hours.

      Exercise - No jumping, no cantering (undersaddle) for 2 weeks. He can and is being worked - lunging for the past week and back to undersaddle today. The delay in going back to undersaddle has been on our part (life got in the way).

      Wyatt did not swell much until Sunday and that has limited his desire to romp around when he is out, so the lunging has been a morning & afternoon procedure, about a half hour each time and just walk/trot. The change in his attitude has been both dramatic & amusing - he has gone from being distracted by who is in which field or in the ring with him and can he go pester them, to just wondering if he can go find something (like grass) to eat. Totally food oriented now.

      Good luck!

      Edited to add:

      We did 2 April 2007 colts on Monday. There were a couple of complications but the normal instructions were/are, in for 24 hours, then turnout as much as possible with company to keep them moving around.
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      • #4
        We just gelded our 2 year old about 3 weeks ago. I kept him up for the first 24 hours after the procedure, just hand-walking multiple times when I had the chance. Then he was turned out in the round pen daily by himself but where he could have contact with other horses for the first week. He was stalled at night. I hosed him daily as well. By the end of the 1st week his incisions were closed enough that I didn't have to worry about herniation and he was turned out with his older buddy daily but still brought in at night and cold hosed, since there was some swelling though never enough to slow him down or cause any unusual symptoms/problems. By the end of the second week he was on full 24 hour turnout again. I took a look at him this morning and he's completely healed with some thickening of the scrotum that will resolve in short time.
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        • #5
          We did it in the spring but basically... 24/7 turnout + 15-20 handwalk/trot per day for 7-10 days.

          It was done on the farm laying down and all went very well.
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          • #6
            At our clinic, we generally send the horse home the same day, once they have recovered from anesthesia. Our reccomendation is to get them moving around ASAP. Generally we reccomend turn-out, but if the horse is sedentary and not wanting to move much on his own then we do reccomend lunging, round-pen work or riding.
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            • #7
              I just gelded my first guy at 5 months old in the fall. We did it on the farm, outside, and as soon as the sedation wore off, he went back outside with a heard of other just gelded boys. They were on 24/7 turnout but come in 2x a day for feeding, and were then checked for swelling etc. My guy was pretty young, so had no problems. I think 2 of the other guys had minor swelling, and I'm not sure if they were buted or not, but they had a warm compress on that area and the scabs removed to help them drain. Pretty much o ur vet said to get them moving as much as possible as soon as possible to help get everything out, and just make sure you check to make sure everything is going well.

              I'd imagine, if they were in, it might be better to bed in straw or something like woody pet (that's kiln dried) as sawdust can foster bacterial growth and they could get infections if they lay down.
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              • #8
                I gelded a 12 year old stallion about 4 months ago. We did it at the clinic on gas so there would be plenty of time to do a thorough job, and support if there were any complications. The concern with the older colts and stallions is hemmorhage and herniation.

                The complication I had is that there was a significant amount of scrotal fat due to my guy's age and the size of his scrotum, and the next day we had tissue hanging from the incision. Wanted to rule out omental origin so layed him back down and it was scrotal fat.

                Anyway, after that he was turned out with my weanlings and lunged vigorously twice daily (trot and canter). Had a big hole that took a long time to heal but my guess is your boy is a lot smaller with less scrotal fat.

                So my advice would be to definitely do the procedure at the clinic. Your vet can evaluate the size of the inguinal rings and how much of an increased herniation risk there might be while he's down. In general, turnout and exercise are your friend.

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                • #9
                  I pick a week with good weather predicted, the vet lays them down out in a clean field. He also pulls the wolf teeth while the colt is sedated. Then I leave them out 24/7 for a week, never had any problems.
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                  • #10
                    I gelded a 3 year old last year. He was done on the nice grass in the back-yard then left in the paddock for the rest of the day to recovery from the drugs. After that he was turned right back out into the pasture with the other boys. They play and run and keep him moving, so I never did any handwalking/longing etc. He healed well and there were no problems! I have a 10 months old that is getting done next week and am planning to do the same with him!
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                    • #11
                      In this area, the only time they go to the clinic for the procedure is if there is an undescended testicle to deal with-- thus a much more complicated procedure. 99% of them are done on the farm, on a clean grassy area.

                      Usually we do them in the late afternoon, and keep them up overnight (to assist in clotting). Unless they get very uncomfortable, no bute or banamine that first night, since it does thin the blood a bit. Kick them out the next day. If they are in a group of youngsters, they usually move around fine on their own. If not, you need to make sure they move (think brisk trot, 10 min) two or three times each day. This is to ensure they are draining.

                      Watch for swelling. Some is expected... and it seems like the swelling is worst on the 3rd or 4th day. After that, it should go down. Once the swelling starts to go down, as long as the boy is eating, drinking, and not acting pitiful, you are probably home free but I personally watch them pretty closely for 2 weeks.

                      The younger the colt is when this is done, the easier the procedure and recovery. I had one down last Thursday afternoon. Oddly, his incisions did not drain, which concerned me. But the swelling was not bad at all and he was feeling SO good he was bucking and playing. On the 3rd day, I also had some swelling in the scrotal area, so I palpated very gently-- there was no heat, no soreness so obviously all's well.

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                        Thanks for all the replies!

                        So it sounds like it would be okay to put him out with his friends after getting him back from the clinic (the 24 hours)?

                        My vet suggested waiting 2 days to even a week so he wouldn't hurt the surgery spot while playing with his friends. But he would DEFINITELY get more movement out with them then standing in a paddock by himself.
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                        • #13
                          I geld a few each year- mostly 2yrs and under. Last year I included a 3yo. Vet comes to farm. We take them outside of the barn in the grass- and geld them standing up. It is easy and quick. Knock on wood, I've not had one problem in 5 years of gelding them.

                          We keep a close eye on them for at least the first 2-3 days to watch for abnormal swelling, bleeding, or anything hanging out. Bedded on straw. (I bed on sawdust, but have straw for outside sheds and gelded stalls when needed). Once the sedation wears off, they start routine of 4x/day on the wheel and 20mins hosing after each walk. I time the equiciser to a very fast walk, so they are trotting some and get to walk enough. 20mins 4x/day. The more movement the better, but limited movement the first couple days so not to rip anything or over stretch things inside. Once the hole is closed and all looks well- they go back out in the big field.

                          note- all my guys are broke to the wheel (equiciser) by 8 months old so it's nice that I can put them on there if I ever need to!

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                          • #14
                            We always geld the same year as we wean. Definitely let them be out and moving as much as possible! We prefer the lying down to standing up.

                            They tend to drop off in weight as a general rule.
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                            • #15
                              Okggo:

                              Nothing to add since I don't have experience with this, but hugs for you. I know this was not an easy decision, but you want what is best for Durham.

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                              • #16
                                We did 12 last year. Ranging from 1yr to 12yrs. Everyone 2yr and up was done standing. Kept them in stalls and quiet for 24hrs. (With the older guys I checked on them several times through out the night to make sure they weren't bleeding out.) After 24hrs got them moving to reduce swelling and reduce chance of infection setting up in the fluid retained.

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                                • #17
                                  We just gelded our 4 year old colt....same as you, heart not totally in it. But, it went well and he is acting more and more like a gelding daily. It is nice to have buddies, not as seculeded (mine are only 12' away from mares, but now he can--eventually be, turned out with the girls too.

                                  I have a 3 year old, that my heart isn't into either. He is on the hotter side, but drop dead gorgeous AND getting better and better as each day passes. I like MELLLLLOOOOOWWW and just don't see him being a mount for me, although undersaddle, he is a really good boy. I just like low headed, kickum up type of horses--old style--you know? ha ha ha. He is very modern, very leggy and ready to go do what ever I ask of him. He is on the fence about getting gelded. I MAY have to keep him another year to decide. Good looking boy, movement, confo--whole package, just too hot of a package for me. ha ha ha.

                                  OH shoot, back to the subject.

                                  Stryders gelding was good, he did him standing up and he was on full turn out immed, with antibiotics. (he got a shot of pen and then TMZ for 7 days). Bute 2 g a day and it is almost totally healed. Big whole, but you wouldn't even know he had any pain. He was bucking and running on his one daily. ??? So, he must have a high pain tollorence. I'm sure all will be GREAT!
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                                  • #18
                                    I had my 20-mo colt done laying down on the farm. He got pen and bantamine and tetanus along with the happy drugs. The vet I use is absolutely excellent, and it was done with emasculators, and over with quickly. There was very little bleeding. They leave the emasculators on for a bit to help clot the blood.

                                    He was on 24/7 turnout for maybe 10 days. He did swell quite a bit, but we also had a warm flash RIGHT after I had him gelded. He was pretty sore, so he was on bute and pen again, starting on the 3rd or 4th day. I did handwalk him and coldhose him daily.

                                    I do think my boy is a bit of a weenie when it comes to pain though.

                                    Oh, my vet also sutured the cord & vein before he clamped the testicle off, so I'm sure that helped control the bleeding as well. Which is good, because I heard a story about 2 days later of a colt that another local vet gelded who almost bled out. They used the electric drill to twist the cord & break it, and apparently it wouldn't stop bleeding. I was very happy with how my vet did it, especially after hearing that story!

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