• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

breeding suggestions

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • breeding suggestions

    My DD's super awesome hunter pony is out for the year (check ligament) and she has mentioned wanting to breed her and keep the legacy thru a foal that would be for competition later.
    The pony is NOT registered (welsh/qtr) but has been a super 1st lvl dressage pony (scoes in the 70's) and just the best packer hunter. She is a huge meduim (looks like a large) does the horse steps can do the childrens, the mediums, the short stirrup... it's more like sitting on a horse with stubby legs than on a pony( but she has a cute little pony face)

    So we started looking at breeding her, she has had one foal a number of years ago. We are thinking small WB stallion. It doesnt matter to us if the foal is not pony size..we want a quality foal, size does not matter since we will compete it ourselves in whatever area suits it best.

    Any small (horse) stallion suggestions? DD LOVES Redwine, but that is not in my budget this year.
    Last edited by jumpytoo; Mar. 20, 2011, 12:57 AM. Reason: better title
    I can explain it TO you,but I can't understand it FOR you

  • #2
    This guy is fabulous over fences:

    http://www.shnpayback.org/stallions/showgun_pgn.xml

    I watched him show a few years ago at 3'3" with a fabulous trip. The foal would be registerable with AHA.
    Attached Files
    The Inverted Y
    Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
    2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
    www.allanglos.net

    Comment


    • #3
      I think Jill is running a special on Redwine right now?

      I've got a yearling Redwine, and another on the way. Absolutely incredible temperament on every Redwine I've met.
      Making Your Ambitions a Reality at Secret Ambition Stables.
      Quality Welsh Ponies and Welsh Crosses bred for sport
      Facebook Page.
      Section A and Section B Welsh Ponies at stud

      Comment


      • #4
        Or, since you like Redwine, how about Escapade's full brother, Escapade II? He is a bit smaller than Escapade, who is a successful sire of ponies even though he is himself over 16.2H.

        I watched Escapade II school over some huge fences last month with a 17 year old rider. Very impressive! He also scored higher in the 70 day test than his full brother. He is less expensive than Redwine.

        http://www.shnpayback.org/stallions/escapade_ii.xml
        Attached Files
        Last edited by allanglos; Mar. 20, 2011, 01:38 AM.
        The Inverted Y
        Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
        2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
        www.allanglos.net

        Comment


        • #5
          Some things to think about.
          The stud fee is far from the biggest cost. The vet fees and everything else is what adds up. At this time RW is only $850. If that is too much than breeding her may not be what you want to do. I spent 5K and that is with a $1200 stud fee. That was to just get a live foal. Since then there have been lots of other costs. And at any point and time something can go wrong and you have no foal. Count on 1 1/2 yrs off of riding the mare to any degree. And a foal that may look more like one of its ancestors more than its parents.

          Second, your daughter is 4 years off of even getting on a baby, another 2 or so before you have a horse that is ready to go to any degree. Do you have someone to train the foal? They take a lot of time and they can be a real handful. It is expensive if you are not going to do it yourself. Will your DD be in college in 6 years or less? Will she still want a pony if she is still riding? Or will her abilities have grown so that she wants a more competitive horse?
          I was the kid that was thinking of breeding her special cross mare many years ago. I ended up just buying a Wb and while a bit sad at the time, in hindsight, it was the best thing. The "cross" foal would have had much sentimental value but probably not the ability that I ended up with. Plus I ended up very attached to the WB.
          If you ever have to/want to sell the offspring it will be much more marketable if it is a full WB or at least a Tb cross with papers.
          Well that wasn't very cheery, was it?

          Good luck in your choice either way!

          Comment


          • #6
            I'd be happy to work with you through my new venture -
            VirginiaBred Matchmaking Service.
            See me on FB or message me.
            Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

            Comment

            • Original Poster

              #7
              I grew up in a race (TB) breeding family so even though it has been a while I know the costs add up. We have our own place so board and time to grow up are not really concerns. My DD has already outgrown the pony, since it's 16 yrs and just now has an injury I am reluctant to consider selling it when she is sound since there is no way to guanantee a good home or someone as patient as me. If we don't breed her she may do some para riders next year.

              stoicfish
              Count on 1 1/2 yrs off of riding the mare to any degree
              Not really, my own jumper mare did the A/O jumpers while in foal (even with a lil belly).Had her from cradle to grave (25 years) and did the training myself til she was ready to start the show circuit, then of course we had someone schooling us.

              DD is 12yrs old, so no college and understands it's not a toy

              She wants to try and pay for everything herself (that's the limiting factor) I am not familiar with good "smaller" horse stallions so need to learn which ones are good. I do agree with her that we don't need to breed for a pony size foal. If we get one.. that's the breaks and we will adjust accordingly.

              I just want to give her some names to research and let her think her plans thru, including her expenses for the actual breeding part. She doesnt have to worry about board/training costs for a few years (unless she forgets to empty the dishwasher)
              I can explain it TO you,but I can't understand it FOR you

              Comment


              • #8
                Best wishes in your search, Jumptoo.
                I think you might find it hard to find a quality stud for less than $850. There may be some deals out there and there are some auctions at this time of year but I think most are done this weekend. Generally Wb stallions are 16 hands and up but if you are not concerned with the height than that widens the search to any stallion that suits your mare and the discipline.
                I am not sure there are many Wb's that do live cover, but there might be some out there. The AI will be her biggest cost.

                Some ideas:
                http://www.isroldenburg.org/?pid=sta...ons_short%list
                http://www.hanoverian.org/Stallions/active.shtml
                http://www.americanwarmblood.com/sta...on_roster.html
                http://www.rhpsi.com/stallions/stallionrosterhome.asp

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by jumpytoo View Post
                  She doesnt have to worry about board/training costs for a few years (unless she forgets to empty the dishwasher)
                  Oh, that's funny If she needs a place to stay to look at FL stallions, she can stay with me if she empties my dishwasher, too Bonus if she can cook!

                  BTW, the half priced stallions at www.shnpayback.org are available through July.

                  I saw on Facebook today that Escapade II did well at HITS Ocala with his 17 year old rider.
                  The Inverted Y
                  Thoroughbred and Anglo Arabian Sporthorses
                  2005 and 2007 USEF Breeder of the Year.
                  www.allanglos.net

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    You might consider our rising star Wizard WF.
                    http://watermark-farm.net/wizard.html
                    He is kind, elastic and talented. Last summer a junior rider rode him and his sire Waldaire and has a blast. He is super talented over fences too. There are a couple of over fences photos here:
                    http://watermark-farm.net/wizardphotogallery.html
                    Anne
                    -------
                    "Where knowledge ends violence begins." B. Ljundquist

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Kathy's Bellafonte d'Avalon might be worth looking at and I think she has a special on him at the moment.

                      MRF Hot Shot

                      Empire's Power

                      Ridley

                      and I saw that Happy Hour (http://www.happyhour1.com/abouthh.html) has a half price breeding special advertised, although I don't see it on their website - I saw it on Dreamhorse, I think
                      www.juniperridgeranch.us
                      Visit us on Facebook!

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X