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  • TB stallion suggestions?

    Hello,

    Does anyone have any suggestions for a TB or mostly TB stallion to look at for breeding to a Sion/Contender mare? The goal is an athletic sporthorse.

    Also, does anyone know if Lauries Crusader frozen semen is available *anywhere* and if it is good frozen?

    Thank you!

    J.
    Proud member of the Colbert Dressage Nation

  • #2
    You need to look hard and long at Jaguar mail. he's in the five to go to the Games for Sweden. He's by Hand in Glove xx which you shoudl know all about, out of a Laudanum xx mare (Laudanum xx you shoudl know all about), out of an Almé Z mare, out of a Gotthard Mare.

    if you're looking for recommendation's.............

    In 2007 he covered:

    Headley's Brittania (Winner Burghley 2006 and badminton 2007 and going to the Games 2008)
    The Wexford Lady (Games 2004)
    Fachoudette (european games 2007)
    Winsome Adante's mother (you may have heard of him!)
    Bruce Davidson's jam (10th Burghley 2007)
    Etc etc

    He's covering those mares again in 2008, plus Lord Killinghursts sister and a number of 4* star mares.

    here's his link, the semen is already in the USA:

    http://www.frenchstallions.org/frenc...allion=2007009

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    • Original Poster

      #3
      WOW, he's all leg! He makes those courses look easy, and what an impressive resume! Thank you so much for directing me to him. The mare in question has produced some good dressage horses but she might really produce a nice hunter/jumper type. It's in her bloodlines anyway...

      A Fine Romance is also being seriously considered.

      Thanks again, "Z"!

      J.
      Proud member of the Colbert Dressage Nation

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      • #4
        Lauries semen is useless frozen.
        What about a stallion like Londonderry? He most certainly Lauries best son but he will add size.
        I also like this stallion :
        Select Roven xx from the stallions listed on :
        http://www.team-nijhof.nl/

        Or how about a stallion like Sunlight xx (has good frozen) or
        Likoto xx http://www.superiorequinesires.com/s.../likoto_xx.htm both of whom stand at Celle.

        I also adore this stallion but not sure about his frozen ?
        http://www.sambertino.com/stravinsky_profile.shtml
        www.svhanoverians.com

        "Simple: Breeding,Training, Riding". Wolfram Wittig.

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        • #5
          Someone was asking for TB stallion recommendations awhile back and a friend of mine is looking for one too, so I copied this list. May be helpful?

          For hunters:
          Jones Hall www.jones-hall.com
          Truckin Kinda Guy website????
          A Fine Romance www.afineromance.ca
          Brooke Front www.tamarackselectstallions.com
          Fun And Fancy Free www.myfoxfarm.com
          Castle Cove www.smallwoodfarm.net/cove.htm
          Aaron's Gold www.mortgagehallfarm.com/aaronsgold.htm
          Fleetwood's Bolero www.highpointfrm.com/Stallions.htm
          Apollo's Fire www.oditech.com/~allenstockfarm/Apollo.html
          G. P.'s Krugerrand www.symranch.com/horses/st01.html
          Minister General www.symranch.com/horses/st06.html
          Smooth Move www.NeverSayNeverFarm.com
          Canadian Kid www.NeverSayNeverFarm.com
          Guaranteed Gold www.angelfire.com/on3/TrueColoursFarm/GG.html
          Adam K. website????


          For jumper/eventer/allaround:
          Coconut Grove www.tamarackselectstallions.com (GP jumper)
          Triple Twist www.twistoffateeventing.com/tripletwist.html (bred to jump)
          Salute The Truth www.dodonfarm.com/willy1.html (evented advanced) (JC name Boy Done Good)
          Sea Accounts www.debracysporthorses.com
          Mystic Replica http://lanefieldfarm.com/mysticreplica.htm (bred to event)
          Reputed Testamony www.tamarackhill.com/Stallions/reputed.htm
          Innkeeper www.enavantstud.com/stallions.html


          Trakehner:
          Windfall (Olympic eventer, very popular sire but his foals are still young)
          http://americantrakehner.com/Stallions/Windfall.asp
          Advocate (eventer, sired eventers) http://looncreek.omnicityusa.com/ or
          http://americantrakehner.com/Stallions/Advocate.asp
          Silver Twist (boy is he bred to jump!) www.dreamtimefarm.com

          Selle Francais:
          Knock Wood (also bred to jump, maybe more of a jumper than eventer, a young horse, unproven as a sire yet, but wonderful bloodlines) Newsprint Farm (newsprintfarm@aol.com)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Blue Moon View Post
            Someone was asking for TB stallion recommendations awhile back and a friend of mine is looking for one too, so I copied this list. May be helpful?


            For jumper/eventer/allaround:
            Coconut Grove www.tamarackselectstallions.com (GP jumper)
            Triple Twist www.twistoffateeventing.com/tripletwist.html (bred to jump)
            Salute The Truth www.dodonfarm.com/willy1.html (evented advanced) (JC name Boy Done Good)
            Sea Accounts www.debracysporthorses.com
            Mystic Replica http://lanefieldfarm.com/mysticreplica.htm (bred to event)
            Reputed Testamony www.tamarackhill.com/Stallions/reputed.htm
            Innkeeper www.enavantstud.com/stallions.html
            You can add our stallion to that list. His first foal is on the ground now with more to come soon...
            Fox Haven Farm, Inc.
            Home of 2002 JC Registered stallion Artrageous

            Artrageous has his own Facebook page!

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            • #7
              You should look at Catherston Liberator -- 3/4 TB, by Liboi xx (English TB) out of a Grade A showjumping mare, Catherston Jetstream. Evented through Intermediate (winning last three times out), dressage through Prix St George, showjumped through Grade C. He's nominated IHF for 2008.

              Also, Dutch Gold (3/4 TB), who has a very fancy trot for the hunters, Catherston Dazzler (7/8 TB), whose first US foal just won a hack class at HITS Ocala (sire of numerous top **** eventers and GP dressage horses), McGuigan (1/2+ Irish TB, 1/2 Han.), very good temperament, smaller horse, but can throw size. Most of the stallions on this site are English TB crosses.

              www.emcostallionservices.com

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              • Original Poster

                #8
                WOW - there are some VERY NICE TB stallions out there! Thanks so much! This is increasing the decision making difficulty by orders of magnitude.

                I really appreciate your input. I would never have come across many of these guys on my own and so really appreciate your taking the time to point them out.

                Thank you Thank you Thank you!

                J.
                Proud member of the Colbert Dressage Nation

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                • Original Poster

                  #9
                  [quote=Donella;3097773]Lauries semen is useless frozen.
                  What about a stallion like Londonderry? He most certainly Lauries best son but he will add size.

                  Really? We actually couldn't find anyone with his semen on hand at the moment, and also weren't sure of the frozen quality. Not so good, eh?

                  We're looking at Londonderry but were hoping to get a little more TB for this particular gal on this particular year.

                  Thanks!
                  J.
                  Proud member of the Colbert Dressage Nation

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                  • #10
                    ... doing your part to identify and preserve some of the best sporthorse sires before it is too late. Bringing back the TB of old
                    before it was diluted with speedy sprinters for NA racing over short distances.
                    Proud member of People Who Hate to Kill Wildlife clique

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                    • #11
                      Yes I was told by someone near me of another person around here who has a few doses of Lauries but when I asked around on the Hano boards everyone agreed that it is useless. Then I realized I really have never seen a lauries foal born here.

                      On another note I have also heard that Londonderry is not being collected right now. No idea why.

                      I wish there was a purebred son of Lauries out there..that would be neat to see.
                      www.svhanoverians.com

                      "Simple: Breeding,Training, Riding". Wolfram Wittig.

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                      • #12
                        I really like Stravinsky too.
                        "The higher you hold your pinky, the more dignified you be." -Patrick Starfish

                        "Simplicity is the keynote of all true elegance" -Coco Chanel

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Foxtrot's View Post
                          ... doing your part to identify and preserve some of the best sporthorse sires before it is too late. Bringing back the TB of old
                          before it was diluted with speedy sprinters for NA racing over short distances.
                          That's not necessairly true . My guy is 2000 (gelding though), and he's very old east-coast style bred. Not a lick of Native Dancer/Northern Dancer, etc. His sire is still standing in VA, but my guy's dam looks like he spit her out. He was also never raced, and truly is a dressage sporthorse.

                          There are still very good stallions out there with excellent conformation, temperment, movement, etc. that aren't necessairly advertised as "sporthorses".
                          "The higher you hold your pinky, the more dignified you be." -Patrick Starfish

                          "Simplicity is the keynote of all true elegance" -Coco Chanel

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                          • #14
                            J-Lu -

                            I used A Fine Romance with my holsteiner mare and am thrilled with the result. If you are in the DFW area and would like to see what the cross produced let me know.

                            There are a number of other fine stallions listed on this thread as well. Isn't stallion shopping fun!

                            Brenda (BNH)

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                            • #15
                              If you have any interest in Sea Accounts, while he is now competing in North Carolina with Christan Trainor, I have a plethora (yep, need to get on the selling bandwagon, LOL) of his kids here in North Texas, most are out of WB or WB/TB mares. There are also pics of them on my website. I'm always happy to show them off.
                              www.debracysporthorses.com
                              Home of Sea Accounts xx
                              AHS/HV, ATA, GOV, RPSI, JC, AQHA, APHA, APtHA
                              "LIKE" www.facebook.com/SeaAccounts

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                              • Original Poster

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BNH View Post
                                J-Lu -

                                I used A Fine Romance with my holsteiner mare and am thrilled with the result. If you are in the DFW area and would like to see what the cross produced let me know.

                                There are a number of other fine stallions listed on this thread as well. Isn't stallion shopping fun!

                                Brenda (BNH)
                                Hi Brenda, we'd love to see pictures of your babies if you have any but we're down south. Stallion shopping IS fun, but also overwhelming! The barn specializes in dressage-oriented warmbloods but we're all in the dark about TBs except for what is listed in the COTH stallion issue. There have been great responses here. Thanks!
                                Proud member of the Colbert Dressage Nation

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                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by cyriz's mom View Post
                                  If you have any interest in Sea Accounts, while he is now competing in North Carolina with Christan Trainor, I have a plethora (yep, need to get on the selling bandwagon, LOL) of his kids here in North Texas, most are out of WB or WB/TB mares. There are also pics of them on my website. I'm always happy to show them off.
                                  Thanks!! Will check them out...
                                  Proud member of the Colbert Dressage Nation

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                                  • Original Poster

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by AMDressage View Post
                                    That's not necessairly true . My guy is 2000 (gelding though), and he's very old east-coast style bred. Not a lick of Native Dancer/Northern Dancer, etc. His sire is still standing in VA, but my guy's dam looks like he spit her out. He was also never raced, and truly is a dressage sporthorse.

                                    There are still very good stallions out there with excellent conformation, temperment, movement, etc. that aren't necessairly advertised as "sporthorses".
                                    I used to ride some Well Mannered decendents and some of them had very nice dressage movement (one made it to 4th/PSG). I have friends who have alot of Mokeiba babies. Some have nice movement, some don't, but all can jump the moon.

                                    Out of curiosity, what is so terrible about Native Dancer/Northern Dancer and Nasrullah lines. People here seem to despise them. Why? Because they are everywhere or because of some genetic trait? Like I said, I know nothing of TBs.

                                    J.
                                    Proud member of the Colbert Dressage Nation

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                                    • #19
                                      Don't forget Alligator Fontaine, a super stallion with to die for looks, here's his link:

                                      http://www.frenchstallions.org/frenc...allion=2007005

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                                      • #20
                                        Native Dancer descendant's are not known to be the soundest horses in the world ...

                                        Northern Dancer's can tend to be on the small side (he was 15.2hh) and a lot of breeders doubled up on those bloodlines so in some cases you will find them top and bottom in pedigrees as well
                                        www.TrueColoursFarm.com
                                        www.truecoloursproducts.com

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