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  • Quaterback

    I know there are many threads regarding Quaterback, but I have a specific question: has anyone used him on a mare with a longish back? If so, what is the foal's back like?
    TIA
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  • #2
    Good question! I too have wondered about his saddle position/loin connection as there is little available to "see" that part of his conformation. The few conformation shots I have come across have him at an angle or head on.
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    • #3
      I have not bred to him so cannot comment but there are some conformation shots on this thread: http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/sh...ght=quaterback
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      • #4
        This looks like a pretty decent conformation picture.

        http://www.sosath.com/cms2010/upload...back_Stand.jpg
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        • #5
          I used Quaterback on this Londonderry mare, that has a longer back.

          http://www.crosiadorefarm.com/Crosia...rm/Lowara.html

          and got this filly.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0BUL4VH95M

          The filly is 18 months old in the video and really butt high, but her back is a slightly shorter than her dam's and she seems to have better natural balance in the canter.

          The other Quaterback colt I had from the same year also has a slightly shorter back than his dam. But it both cases the shortening of the back is minimal.
          Nancy Holowesko

          www.crosiadorefarm.com

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            #6
            I already knew what he looked like, but am more wondering if/how his body type/build influences his mares. I can already see consistent movement and type in his foals. Cindy--thanks for posting the link to that thread. It is interesting that there was a debate over him being long in the back. I always thought he had a more compact build, which is why I want to hear from those who bred him to their mares with long backs
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              #7
              Originally posted by Crosiadore Farm View Post
              I used Quaterback on this Londonderry mare, that has a longer back.

              http://www.crosiadorefarm.com/Crosia...rm/Lowara.html

              and got this filly.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0BUL4VH95M

              The filly is 18 months old in the video and really butt high, but her back is a slightly shorter than her dam's and she seems to have better natural balance in the canter.

              The other Quaterback colt I had from the same year also has a slightly shorter back than his dam. But it both cases the shortening of the back is minimal.
              Thank you! That is very helpful.
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              • #8
                In our case, he shortened the back of the dam, here are pictures and videos of the colt. He is sold to a rider who'll want to show him in the young horse classes in some years:

                http://hwfarm.com/ours/urls/quickstep_hw.htm
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Callaway View Post
                  I already knew what he looked like, but am more wondering if/how his body type/build influences his mares. I can already see consistent movement and type in his foals. Cindy--thanks for posting the link to that thread. It is interesting that there was a debate over him being long in the back. I always thought he had a more compact build, which is why I want to hear from those who bred him to their mares with long backs
                  I think of Quaterback as being rather compact in build and it appears he can produce a bit heavy with a ton of bone. With the right mare, though, he can be very interesting. I personally would breed him only to a very modern mare. I think he would be very good with my Florencio x Jazz, for example, as she is very refined, long-legged, and has a great walk and quick hind leg. I would not pick him for my Hohenstein mare because although she passes on her beautiful walk, she is too compact herself and has old-fashioned bloodlines behind her, so I would risk ending up with a tank.
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                  • #10
                    We have had three Quaterbacks and one more due this year (had two, but the mare aborted a month ago :-(. I will do my post the same good way Crosiadore did it.
                    We bred this Elite Hanoverian mare (Florencio/Akut/Waldhorn):
                    http://www.rollingstonefarm.com/list...gs/l0229.shtml
                    and got this 2009 filly named top filly out of 12 at our AHS inspection:
                    http://www.rollingstonefarm.com/list...gs/l0318.shtml

                    We bred this Elite Hanoverian mare (Widmark/Davignon/Ordensglanz)
                    http://www.rollingstonefarm.com/list...gs/l0231.shtml
                    and got this 2009 filly named Premium and Foal of Distinction by the GOV:
                    http://www.rollingstonefarm.com/list...gs/l0319.shtml

                    We bred this long backed Hanoverian mare (Wolkentanz II/Renaissance/Adlerblick)
                    http://www.rollingstonefarm.com/list...gs/l0132.shtml
                    and got this very tall and leggy 2010 colt named Premium by the GOV:
                    http://www.rollingstonefarm.com/list...gs/l0081.shtml
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                    • #11
                      This is the dam of the colt I mentioned

                      http://www.crosiadorefarm.com/Crosia...Florenzio.html

                      and the resulting colt.

                      http://www.crosiadorefarm.com/Crosia...quote_two.html

                      Also had a third Quaterback in 2009 but do not have a page for him. He looked like a Quaterback clone, while the two foals I kept resemble their dams more?

                      So I guess you also need to know your mare and how much of herself she gives to her foal.

                      There are many Quaterback offspring and hopefully more people will share them with you, but find it always helps to see the dam along side.
                      Nancy Holowesko

                      www.crosiadorefarm.com

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                        Originally posted by YankeeLawyer View Post
                        I think of Quaterback as being rather compact in build and it appears he can produce a bit heavy with a ton of bone. With the right mare, though, he can be very interesting. I personally would breed him only to a very modern mare. I think he would be very good with my Florencio x Jazz, for example, as she is very refined, long-legged, and has a great walk and quick hind leg. I would not pick him for my Hohenstein mare because although she passes on her beautiful walk, she is too compact herself and has old-fashioned bloodlines behind her, so I would risk ending up with a tank.
                        I was thinking of trying him in the future on a new mare. She is an F1 mare, so lots of blood. She is by Contucci, has 3 very nice gaits, of course (typical Contucci) an excellent neck and neck connection, and a nicely sloping shoulder. She is a touch long in the back, however.

                        Thank you Mo and Crosiadore. It is so helpful to see your mares and the foals, and to hear what you think the stallion's impact was, particularly since you know your mares so well.
                        Last edited by Callaway; Mar. 13, 2011, 07:40 AM.
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                        • #13
                          On my phone so I hope this works. I own the Quaterback x Harvard x Akzent II gelding that Crosiadore's mare had in 2009. He does in fact look a fair amount like his sire. He has a great mind as well.

                          http://m729.photobucket.com/albums/a...udb1CNxmyo8%3D

                          (apologies if this fails!) - the foal and weaning shot were taken by Nancy, and the in hand shot (horrible angle) is him last October I believe. He is 2 April 20th- I will get conformation shots when the weather improves in MA!

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