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  • Pony stallions with big free shoulder movement

    Someone asked me this, and I dont really know who to recommend. It would be for a pretty appendix QH mare, who is a pretty mover, but kind of jammed in the shoulders.
    The mare is about 16+h, I would say, and I dont know her background for height in the parents.
    Looking to make a large.
    Mare has foaled before.
    Any ideas?
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    We had this discussion recently:

    http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=292403

    She is too big to produce a pony foal. Need a smaller mare for that purpose.
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    • #3
      Permanent Pony Card at 14.1-3/4H.

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      • #4
        Allanglos, are you suggesting that this might be a good cross with the OP's mare? Not sure if you read her post?
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        • #5
          The problem with trying to get a large pony out of a 16H mare is that you would have to use at small or small medium pony stallion. Most of those are Welsh and might not have the free shoulder you are looking to produce.

          If you don't care about size - I can certainly recommend my pony stallion Popeye who stands at Hilltop Farm!!
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          • #6
            The adorable Foxcry Nicodemus might do.....ask Elly Schobel. She posts here as Elly.
            http://thehomestedt.com/?page_id=59
            Last edited by not again; Mar. 8, 2011, 05:17 PM.
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            • #7
              He has been sold.
              Also, the OP's mare is too large for a pony foal.
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              • #8
                Would Telynau* Falcon work?
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                • #9
                  Foxcry Nicodemus was at Elly's a couple of weeks ago whena friend of mine stopped by. She bought him from Westwood Welsh some time back. I think my friend said he is schooling FEI dressage!!
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                  • #10
                    The OP's mare is too large to breed for pony babies.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by VirginiaBred View Post
                      The OP's mare is too large to breed for pony babies.
                      VB, no one is listening to you, since you obviously don't know what you are talking about
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                      • #12
                        Actually, ponies can be bred from a 16hh mare. It all depends on the size in the pedigree of the mare - the OP said it is an Appendix - she might have smaller QH genetics - and also depends on the stallion you choose - would definitely need to be in the 12hh or less range and all imported bloodlines - there are several nice Sec.A Welsh stallions that could work and a few small Bs. I have a 14.2hh mare by Land's End The Colonels Fox (13hh) out of a 16+hh TB mare. I am not saying it is the norm, but it CAN be done.
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                        • #13
                          Somewhat related -- 15H coming 3 WB filly. Mother is 16H and dad is 16.2H but this girl is not growing. She looks like a yearling in size.

                          For a first foal, could she be bred with good results to a sportpony stallion?

                          Her pedigree is Dutch jumper lines top and bottom.
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                          • #14
                            I would recommend My-Mar Dunvegin. He is a super-fancy hunter pony, who has been proven through show. He is 11.1 1/2 hand section A Welsh and there are several examples on his web page that show his offspring, many of which are out of appendix mares.

                            You can check him out at hunterssoundstable.com. His people are great to work with, and I just love this little guy!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by quicksilverponies
                              Actually, ponies can be bred from a 16hh mare. It all depends on the size in the pedigree of the mare - the OP said it is an Appendix - she might have smaller QH genetics - and also depends on the stallion you choose - would definitely need to be in the 12hh or less range and all imported bloodlines - there are several nice Sec.A Welsh stallions that could work and a few small Bs. I have a 14.2hh mare by Land's End The Colonels Fox (13hh) out of a 16+hh TB mare. I am not saying it is the norm, but it CAN be done.

                              How old is your 14.2 mare?

                              And, if the pedigree is known (which in the OP's case it isn't) and it's a maiden mare....... then perhaps, but I'd rather never take that chance.
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Perfect Pony
                                VB, no one is listening to you, since you obviously don't know what you are talking about

                                I see that. Then absolutely they should go ahead!
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by VirginiaBred View Post
                                  I see that. Then absolutely they should go ahead!

                                  I am back, and listening ( took a break for cataract surgery today). OK I will pass it on. Thanks!
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                                    Hope you're feeling fine, imajacres!
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                                    • #19
                                      My 14.2hh Welsh/TB mare out of a 16+hh mare is 7 yrs old and fully grown. If the OP's friend has papers on her mare, it should be easy enough to check her QH pedigree for size.
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                                      • #20
                                        I have bred a 16.1 H Hanoverian mare, a 15.3 WB, and a 16.0 Hanx mare to my 11.2 Welsh stallion Telynau Falcon- The resulting foals are now 13.3, 14.0 and 14.1/2 as 3 yr olds. We just started them both undersaddle. They are great movers, super smart ponies and loads of fun! He certainly is keeping the size down on the larger mares.
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