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  • Best Broodmare Sires

    OK -- we are always discussing sires and the importance of mare lines. I know in racing certain sires who may be less than steller in producing top performing sons will often be discovered to produce many wonderful daughters.

    Secretariat was such a horse....it took years before they discovered what a wonderful broodmare sire he was.

    In the WB breeds, who is considered an extraordinary broodmare sire? Which stallions would you like to see in your foundation mare's pedigree?

    Why? Any discipline, any registry.

  • #2
    Not a WB, but Bold Mc (TB) was a sensational sire of hunter broodmares (e.g. Bicoastal, Misty Folly...).

    Among WB's, I like what I've seen out of Contender and Calletto mares.
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    • #3
      Feiner Stern is considered an outstanding broodmare sire, as is Cor Noir and Trapper. Although it seems that Trapper mares crossed best with D-line stallions.
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      • #4
        I have heard many people like to see Goodtimes as a damsire. He is a versatile producer.
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          What about the big boys of approved stallions: Weltmeyer, Donnerhall, Rubinstein, and now Sandro Hit?

          It seems to me Rubinstein I has done well in this department, but then I am such a fan of the R line I might be alittle biased.

          But the others?

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          • #6
            Those guys produce well no matter the sex. When I think "Broodmare Sire" I think of those stallions whose mares produced more approved stallions than the stallion did.
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            • #7
              For show jumping, Galoubet A has definitely become an appreciated dam sire as well as Cruising (for both show jumping and eventing).

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                I was going to say Galoubet A too! Of course I'm terribly biased.
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                  I think that Akzent II can be found in many good marelines.
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                  • #10
                    What about Olympic Ahorn and Lantaan?

                    For examples of Lantaan: Carpaccio (Caretino x Lantaan) and Quality (Quinar x Lantaan).

                    and would you say that Ramiro is an all arounder or a broodmare sire?
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                    • #11
                      Metternich mares seem to out produce themselves.
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                      • #12
                        Calando I, BM sire of Canturo, Carthgo, Cascavelle, Lord Calando, and Lord Z. I shouldn't have to say anymore then that. But a good list is:

                        Lord
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                        Laval I
                        Corrado I
                        Caletto II
                        Canturo
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                        Lavaletto
                        Contender
                        Acorado
                        Carthago
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                        • #13
                          Well Ramiro would have to go under "both" for me. He has so many great sons, and then they have sons and daughters -AND he has great daughters...
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                          • #14
                            Frustra II, Graphit, Absatz, Pik Bube I, Lungau, Contender, Argentan, Bolero.
                            I also think Prince Thatch will prove to be a good broodmare sire.
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                              Originally posted by Sonesta View Post
                              Those guys produce well no matter the sex. When I think "Broodmare Sire" I think of those stallions whose mares produced more approved stallions than the stallion did.
                              Well, with TBs, it's not really a matter of producing racing mares, but instead a matter of producing mares who produce.

                              In other words, a mare like Loretta who can be bred to just about any stallion and produce a StP mare or a licensed stallion -- at the very least a successful sporthorse.

                              We give credit to the stallion she is bred to, but what about the sire of the mare?

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                                Lys de Darmen?
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                                • #17
                                  I say this with total bias. Like really, basically I'm just saying my own mares!

                                  I LOVE Donnerhall and Rubinstein on the damline, I think it gives the breeder more scope to use 'flashy' young stallions as you know you have sensible, working genes with a good allowance for brilliant temperament.
                                  I am so biased towards these two lines though. To me they are proven, they work, they create working horses who want to work, I tend to think that if you don't have temperament then movement or dressage talent or jump or whatever don't matter at all. Temperament and rideability are the building blocks and Donnerhall and Rubinstein horses have both!
                                  My dream broodmare, and I'm planning to breed it myself in the next few years (better be a filly!) woud be by Sandro Hit with Donnerhall and Rubinstein and Ramino on the damline.

                                  That's another one. Ramino. Ramino mares have done a LOT for dressage. I do like a bit of jumping blood in dressage horses. Some trakehner blood can also be good too, particularly if you're looking at a stallion with very strong dressage lines and you want some lightness.

                                  I'm a big fan of the Hanovarian A line too, Absatz and Akzent II. But then again I am biased. I have a brilliant four year old mare by Alabaster with a temperament and beautiful head and front end I would very much like to see on a foal.

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                                    Werther and Grand Cru

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                                        I can't remember which magazine, but there was just an article about Riverman mares and I bet he is a fantastic broodmare sire. I have also heard that Cor Noir is known for his very good daughters. I also really like 'D' and 'R.' I have 2 'D' mares, one of which is by Davignon.
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