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COLOR BREEDERS: Silver Dapple (Z gene) in Warmbloods

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  • ggatsby11 - What's his dam's breeding? He looks a bit drafty.


    • Yes you are correct, his dam is a draft cross of unknown breeding, she has the silver dapple gene.


      • Originally posted by ShannonD View Post
        No photos?

        Solaris Sporthorses posted this lovely KWPN mare and her foal by their stallion Amoureux. Mare & foal are clearly silver, I believe brown silver. The mare is by a Ferro son; wish I knew the rest of her breeding!


        Photo for those not wanting to dig:
        Thanks Shannon

        The mare is actually an NRPS mare by a KWPN BWP approved son of Ferro. Her colt is registered KWPN though.

        The same breeder also has a KWPN mare by Jet Set D from the successfull Haafke damline, that is tested silver and one of her daughters who has also tested silver but is chestnut.

        The silver gene has been transmitted from the KWPN Gelders lines into the riding horse section of the KWPN stud book.

        Angelina at Stal D (Special D) has a couple of mares from the Aafke dam line, (Special D's dam line) It was introduced through the Gelders stallion Uron.

        A photo of Haafke

        The most beautiful Silver mare from this line has to be Voice D

        Another of our colleagues in the Netherlands has a silver KWPN colt foal from the same dam line, sire, Voice. He is being kept entire as a future stallion prospect. A few years to wait yet till he is of age.

        There's also a silver dapple KWPN stallion by Goodtimes (SSH licensed) Vivaldi in Scotland and again the silver comes through the damline of Uron. I saw him at the inspections aged thre. There were actually two silvers presented that year and both licensed the second Vision was also from the same damline. Toinne Hoefs and Johan Knaap if I remember rightly were the inspectors. I took photos of them both as was intruiged by their colouring not to mention they both moved very well and Vivaldi's jump was the highest scoring of the day.


        • Originally posted by JB View Post
          Iregina, the dam of Osilvio (the apparent Silver Bay, and he sure looks it) looks to be brown - sooty brown? Osilvio's sire certainly isn't Silver at all - just a bay. If you go to Osilivio's site, and to the Sales Barn, scrolling way down there's a "Ghost" foal who also looks Silver.
          My guess is Galustre Plume/Flaxen + Sooty.?

          Osilvio is chestnut, his sire Silvio II is a known producer of Gallustre Plume on bays. Have seen direct descendants at VDL some are registered as Silver but aren't as there was no silver in the dam line and there is none in Silvios. Pretty sure have seen a few of with his bloodlines at the auctions over the years also registered as silver brown but were Gallustre Plume.


          Have a really good pic of a chestnut with silver mane and tail that tested negative for silver will see if I can find it.

          Is Bazuin a true silver? Couldn't he just be a flaxen chestnut? He has no dark points below the knee his legs are chestnut. ?

          Here's another fab example of what looks like silver?

          Last edited by L&L; Nov. 1, 2012, 07:07 PM.


          • ggatsby11 - what are your plans for the stallion? I don't want to come across as holier-than-thou, and I know my opinion was not asked for, but it seems a bit unnecessary to keep him entire when one whole half of his genetic material is unknown. His colour is not enough reason to breed from him. Sorry to sound so mean but I am sure this is a sentiment shared by many.


            • No real plans, he has an excellent temperment and is very trainable. I'm not trying to market him as world class stallion or anything. He has correct confirmation, correct and good quality gaits, and good jumping form. I've free jumped him over 3'6(1.15m). I compete in three day eventing, and although there are many well bred warmbloods, there are many cross bred horses of all types that are successful. I just wanted to share b/c his of his color is a great example of the silver gene expressed on a black horse.


              • I want that Dutch Harness Horse!