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Eligible for The Governor General & Lieutenant Governor Cup?

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  • Eligible for The Governor General & Lieutenant Governor Cup?

    Hi everyone, this is a very specific question, and those located in the US may have very little insight, but I figured it was worth a shot asking the CoTH community. Here we go:

    I purchased my filly last year as a 2-year old. She is registered under KWPN-NA under registry B, as her sire, Cartell 1 by Capone 1, was un-approved at the time and is a registered Canadian Warmblood which is unrecognized by KWPN. Therefore, she does not fit under registry A. For those wondering the difference;

    Register A (Reg A) generally includes foals:
    • by: Licensed stallions, stallions from an Erkend studbook
    • out of: KWPN Foalbook, Studbook, Register A, Register B, Auxiliary Foalbook, Auxiliary Studbook, Thoroughbred or Erkend Studbook mares. Register A foals are eligible for keuring premium grading classes. Horses registered in the Register A may be presented for studbook and Ster without any further requirements. However, to be eligible for Keur and Elite status, further veterinary requirements may need to be completed. These may include radiographs, D-OC and/or performance.
    Register B (Reg B) generally includes foals:
    • by: Foalbook or Watchlist KWPN stallions, OR stallions from a Warmblood studbook not Erkend by the KWPN;
    • out of: KWPN Foalbook, Studbook, Register A, Register B, Auxiliary Foalbook, Auxiliary Studbook, Thoroughbred or Erkend Studbook mares OR mares registered with a Warmblood studbook not Erkend by the KWPN. Register B foals cannot enter keuring classes. Register B foals cannot advance to any other book unless the registration status of the lacking parent changes.
    • foals from one KWPN and one Non-Warmblood or unregistered parent.
    What concerns me is the rule "Register B foals cannot enter keuring classes". Now, I'm not sure if this includes the Governor General Cup classes, as for those who are unfamiliar, it is a class open to registered three-year-old Canadian bred (which she is), capable of excelling in the hunter, jumper, dressage or eventing disciplines, that takes place at an annual national horse show known as the Royal Agricultural Winter Fair, or Royal Horse Show in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

    My apologies for the long post, and perhaps this is a silly question, but because she is registered in (Reg B), could this not be sufficient enough to potentially qualify for this class? I've been looking online on relevant sites pertaining to the Cup classes and additional information, but there is nothing that specifies which registry or book they must be under.

    Does anyone have any experience with this class at the Royal Winter Fair, and the registration requirements for their 3-year old?

    Thanks in advance.

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    AFAIK, as long as you have paper work proving being bred in Canada, and age, you are eligible. You do need to qualify in order to compete.
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      You can download the prizrlist from last year. It should have all the information you need.
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        http://www.c-s-h-a.org/wp-content/up..._Cups_FAQs.pdf

        I think you should be fine as long as you have her papers.
        I’ve got a 2017 filly as well! Hopefully we’ll see you at the qualifiers in the fall!
        Mine is registered RPSI/Westfalen.

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          Originally posted by GoodTimes View Post
          http://www.c-s-h-a.org/wp-content/up..._Cups_FAQs.pdf

          I think you should be fine as long as you have her papers.
          I’ve got a 2017 filly as well! Hopefully we’ll see you at the qualifiers in the fall!
          Mine is registered RPSI/Westfalen.
          Okay that's excellent news. Thank you! Hopefully we will see you there at the qualifiers!

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          • #6
            The folks who manage social media for Canadian Warmblood typically respond same-day to Facebook messages if you want to get it from the horse's mouth, as it were.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DarkBayUnicorn View Post
              The folks who manage social media for Canadian Warmblood typically respond same-day to Facebook messages if you want to get it from the horse's mouth, as it were.
              CSHA facilitates the Cup classes, not Canadian Warmblood. But yes, they’re quick to respond.

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                Originally posted by GoodTimes View Post

                CSHA facilitates the Cup classes, not Canadian Warmblood. But yes, they’re quick to respond.
                This sort of adds to my questions posted above, but do you know (and I'm assuming its a yes), if the ownership needs to be changed on the papers? I'm not sure how it works with other registries, but with KWPN-NA, there is an ownership listed with registration. I have my filly's papers, and her previous owner (breeder) provided me with a signed change-of-ownership sheet that I have yet to submit to KWPN-NA.

                Do you know if the cup class would verify this? Or do they simply just need a copy of her papers/pedigree.

                Thanks again!

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