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  • Connie x Tbs?

    Hoping to get into breeding Connie x tbs instead of pure connies, any ideas on if I’m better to get a Connie mare or a Tb mare, hoping to produce a nice event type. I know it depends on what type a mare and stallion chosen obviously but anyone have any ideas?

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    I understand the foal will tend to adapt to the mom, at least that's the difference between hinnies and mules!

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    • #3
      Generally, the dam contributes more “type” than the sire, at least in my experience.
      so, probably a bit more “Horse type” if mom is the TB.
      there are several excellent Connemara breeders on this board, I’ve only had two Con/TB crosses, so limited experience.

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      • #4
        There are a lot of nice young Connemara/TB crosses out there that you could buy instead of breeding. Take a look.

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        • #5
          Redbud Ranch has some stunning crosses.

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            #6
            [QUOTE=Huntin' Pony;n10549110]There are a lot of nice young Connemara/TB crosses out there that you could buy instead of breeding. Take a look.

            I’m looking to breed not buy

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            • #7
              BTDT - among the many things I learned was: Odds of getting what you want are much better if you buy judiciously.

              Also, Connemara breeders worldwide have decades of experience and will guide you in the right direction. Even if you just look for a while and then ultimately breed your own, you will learn a lot by listening to these good folks. (BTW, most do not call their ponies "Connies.")

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              • #8
                We have lots of that cross and other native x TB in the British Isles and the traditional way of breeding them is 'blood over bone' so the dam should be the native and the sire should be the TB.

                Connie is a normal shortening of Connemara, I've heard it a lot anyway, just like Welsh cobs and Welsh ponies are often called 'Welshies'. I've not heard Fells called 'Fellies' though and Dales are always Dales. Shetties instead of Shetlands is also common although 'Shitland' is gaining in popularity in a tongue in cheek way.

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                  Originally posted by Huntin' Pony View Post
                  BTDT - among the many things I learned was: Odds of getting what you want are much better if you buy judiciously.

                  Also, Connemara breeders worldwide have decades of experience and will guide you in the right direction. Even if you just look for a while and then ultimately breed your own, you will learn a lot by listening to these good folks. (BTW, most do not call their ponies "Connies.")
                  I’ve been breeding thoroughbreds for 18 years for NH and flat sales and connies for 20 years with good results. We live in Ireland and 9/10 people call them connies so aswell as them being native to Ireland and being called connies for as long as I remember and we’ve had regular English, french and Swedish who all call them connies so your mistaken there. And as I said before I was looking for others opinions who have experience on the best crosses and as I told you last time, I’m looking to breed not buy so not sure why you keep saying it?

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                  • #10
                    If you are in Ireland and already involved in breeding, you have a wealth of experience available locally. But "blood over bone" is an old adage. Usually a TB stallion is put to a native, hunter or part-bred mare. That was the philosophy of the old Hunter Improvement Society (HIS) that stood racing-proved TB stallions for use by small-scale breeders across Britain. The HIS was, at one time, the leading stud book for eventers until the WB fashion began. SHB (GB) has not been as successful.
                    "Good young horses are bred, but good advanced horses are trained" Sam Griffiths

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                    • #11
                      As for "Connies," I stand corrected. Just haven't heard it much in USA or in my travels.

                      As for why I suggest contacting Connemara x TB breeders and looking at stock, it's a learning opportunity.

                      I wish you nothing but good luck and happy ponies.

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                      • #12
                        I hope you get the input you're looking for and respect anyone who is doing their due diligence. You are in a great position given where you are and your interests. Here in the states, while the old adage of blood over bone is well known, as a former welsh cob purebred and part-bred breeder, we often do not have the luxury or depth of breeding stock to follow such. As a result I've seen more crosses where the Native (or bone) is on top and the mare is often the TB. I have found the results to be good if you're very careful and picky on the TB blood. I try as hard as I can to breed like to like, in other words, the TB mare must have not only a lot of bone and a leg squarely on each corner but also be proven in the ring (not just on the track). I've owned and competed one Conn x TB who was awesome. She was out of a TB mare as well.
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                        • #13
                          I am not a breeder, but I have two Conn x TB halfbreds, and I am more-than- peripherally involved in the ACPS .

                          Here in the US, it is my impression that most of the successful Eventing half-breds have a Connemara sire and a TB dam (which is what both of mine are). I haven't checked numbers, but I do try to notice Connemaras and halfbreds in the results.

                          I do not call them "Connies", but it doesn't bother me when other people do.
                          Janet

                          chief feeder and mucker for Music, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now). Spy is gone. April 15, 1982 to Jan 10, 2019.

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                          • #14
                            My experience with this cross is that the Tb dams with Connemara sires have foals that take after the TB side more than the Connemara. Of course it also depends on how prepotent either side is.
                            if you’re looking for eventers, that’s how I would do it. TB mare with Connemara sire.
                            If you’re in Ireland, you’ve got a huge pool of mares to choose from if you decide to go native mare, TB sire.
                            www.muskokalakesconnemaras.com
                            Wonderful ponies for family or show!

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