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Andalusian/Half Andy Youngsters; Anyone got one?

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  • Andalusian/Half Andy Youngsters; Anyone got one?

    I seem to have lost the thread on what everyone is doing/ experiencing with their young horses...

    Wondering if anyone is working with spanish bred or half bred youngsters?


    Just getting my half bred mare started, mentally immature or too smart, debatable which yet?

    There seem to be quite a lot of them out there as I have noticed recently. If you have/had one, how were they to start/work with?


    Love hearing your stories and photos are a total plus <3


    TYIA
    https://demirazaespanola.blogspot.com

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    I was just given a 6 year old Andalusian x Percheron gelding. I’ve never worked with this type of horse before now, but I really like him! He has a charming personality and is extremely smart. He was too smart for his old owner... hence, why he was given to me... with a rearing problem... That was corrected in three rides and he’s been lovely ever since. He’s built uphill so he’s naturally very balanced and he has a super soft mouth. He’s so flexible that straightness is a work in progress... he’s like riding a wet noodle! He has no concept of where his feet are.. or maybe he does and he thinks trot poles are stepping stones? TBD. He’s fabulous to trail ride too. I’m not a dressage rider, but he makes me want to buy a dressage saddle! Ultimately, he’ll be my husband’s horse.

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      I've produced a couple of Andy x TB crosses. Both were very easy to train and relatively level headed; but, their dam which was the TB was also very level headed and relatively laid back (otherwise she wouldn't have been bred). She was also built very large bone with a longer neck and refined head. The fillies turned out very well balanced and more warmblood like than I was even hoping for so they ended up with really nice gaits. They went on to ammy owners and I lost track of them.
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        Originally posted by Nevada10 View Post
        I was just given a 6 year old Andalusian x Percheron gelding. I’ve never worked with this type of horse before now, but I really like him! He has a charming personality and is extremely smart. He was too smart for his old owner... hence, why he was given to me... with a rearing problem... That was corrected in three rides and he’s been lovely ever since. He’s built uphill so he’s naturally very balanced and he has a super soft mouth. He’s so flexible that straightness is a work in progress... he’s like riding a wet noodle! He has no concept of where his feet are.. or maybe he does and he thinks trot poles are stepping stones? TBD. He’s fabulous to trail ride too. I’m not a dressage rider, but he makes me want to buy a dressage saddle! Ultimately, he’ll be my husband’s horse.
        Your boy sounds just like my mare, too smart for her own good, lots of noodle and soft. I have heard a few people who said their younger years were a bit tough to deal with, many have ultimately sold them and after 6-8 they turned into adults all of a sudden.

        I feel like they are mentally slow to mature.

        Is your boy anxious at times?
        https://demirazaespanola.blogspot.com

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          Originally posted by exvet View Post
          I've produced a couple of Andy x TB crosses. Both were very easy to train and relatively level headed; but, their dam which was the TB was also very level headed and relatively laid back (otherwise she wouldn't have been bred). She was also built very large bone with a longer neck and refined head. The fillies turned out very well balanced and more warmblood like than I was even hoping for so they ended up with really nice gaits. They went on to ammy owners and I lost track of them.
          Oh yours sound lovely!
          The andalusian really seems to stamp the gaits, I especially notice the canter. Very uphill and deep. The trot.... isn't the strongest gait and often feels like driving in a car with a bad transmission.

          Too bad you lost track I hate that....
          https://demirazaespanola.blogspot.com

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            I have a half bred Lusitano 5 yr old mare that I bred and raised. In no way would I consider her to be immature mentally. She is smart but oh so willing (her dam who was Han/TB had a lovely easy sensitive but sensible disposition too) and has just been a joy to work with. She has had some US work but not as much as I would like but not because of anything she has done, but just do to my life circumstances right now. I do a good bit of ground work with her from caveletti to work in hand to lunging and soon obstacles. She has SI, HI, HP all in hand already and was easy easy to teach this work to. WAY easier than my WB g.

            This is her this summer during a clinic I hosted. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

            I've also traveled to Spain (2017) to ride Andalusians and to Portugal this year to ride Lusitanos. I love love the Iberian temperament and their dispositions. They are so people oriented. I've bred and raised and ridden WBs since '89 and now have shifted to the Iberian world

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              I have an 8m old 3/4 Andalusian 1/4 QH colt that just came home a couple of weeks ago...so far I am LOVING his brain and temperament.

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                My girl (profile photo) isn’t a baby (now 17) but she is 1/2 Andalusian and 1/2 appendix QH. I acquired her as a coming 2 y.o. She is not Azteca as there is too much TB in her pedigree for their registry.

                My biggest issue with her has been tension but when we can work through that she is wonderful. A lot of the early years tension was the result of a physical issue that took awhile to sleuth out. I wish I could have figured it out earlier. Despite that, she is very smart, eager and has nice gaits. Canter is the hardest to get her over the back but if you can eliminate the tension, it is nice too. I wouldn’t say she was mentally a late maturer...she has been a totally alpha mare that has taken quite a while to convince that I can look out for both our our interests.

                She has been blessed (or not) with an owner that has had a very hard time staying sound (while she has been wonderfully sound and barefoot). I have not been able to ride much for about 5 years but when I was able to be fit and train, she was very successful at the shows (mostly local level but hey...that is where I am) winning 3/4 of her classes with scores in the upper 60’s at first level. We were a hair from plunging into second level when my body started to fail me.

                Right now, I am FINALLY getting back to riding and thoroughly enjoying her.

                Susan

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                  Originally posted by khall View Post
                  I have a half bred Lusitano 5 yr old mare that I bred and raised. In no way would I consider her to be immature mentally. She is smart but oh so willing (her dam who was Han/TB had a lovely easy sensitive but sensible disposition too) and has just been a joy to work with. She has had some US work but not as much as I would like but not because of anything she has done, but just do to my life circumstances right now. I do a good bit of ground work with her from caveletti to work in hand to lunging and soon obstacles. She has SI, HI, HP all in hand already and was easy easy to teach this work to. WAY easier than my WB g.

                  This is her this summer during a clinic I hosted. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=3&theater

                  I've also traveled to Spain (2017) to ride Andalusians and to Portugal this year to ride Lusitanos. I love love the Iberian temperament and their dispositions. They are so people oriented. I've bred and raised and ridden WBs since '89 and now have shifted to the Iberian world
                  OHHH So gorgeous! That colour *heart eyes*.

                  I cannot wait to see what you plan to do with her in the future. I have noticed the moment you walk into a field of andy's or half breds (at breeders), your surrounded versus the usual 'oh... humans' from the horses at our barn.
                  My mare is sneaky and must be with you every step of the way to nuzzle.

                  I have been getting much more into in hand work with her, it is amazing how the breed is so predisposed to athleticism and lateral work. It must be the short back/hind end conformation....


                  Jealous of your travels
                  https://demirazaespanola.blogspot.com

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                    Originally posted by Mistral View Post
                    I have an 8m old 3/4 Andalusian 1/4 QH colt that just came home a couple of weeks ago...so far I am LOVING his brain and temperament.
                    OMG what a doll! Lovely classic head. You must be delighted

                    I wonder if he will grey or stay bay? (I can never tell unless they are straight up newborn)
                    https://demirazaespanola.blogspot.com

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                      Originally posted by Kyrabee View Post
                      My girl (profile photo) isn’t a baby (now 17) but she is 1/2 Andalusian and 1/2 appendix QH. I acquired her as a coming 2 y.o. She is not Azteca as there is too much TB in her pedigree for their registry.

                      My biggest issue with her has been tension but when we can work through that she is wonderful. A lot of the early years tension was the result of a physical issue that took awhile to sleuth out. I wish I could have figured it out earlier. Despite that, she is very smart, eager and has nice gaits. Canter is the hardest to get her over the back but if you can eliminate the tension, it is nice too. I wouldn’t say she was mentally a late maturer...she has been a totally alpha mare that has taken quite a while to convince that I can look out for both our our interests.

                      She has been blessed (or not) with an owner that has had a very hard time staying sound (while she has been wonderfully sound and barefoot). I have not been able to ride much for about 5 years but when I was able to be fit and train, she was very successful at the shows (mostly local level but hey...that is where I am) winning 3/4 of her classes with scores in the upper 60’s at first level. We were a hair from plunging into second level when my body started to fail me.

                      Right now, I am FINALLY getting back to riding and thoroughly enjoying her.

                      Susan
                      Ahh yes, the tension, I can relate. My mare can be nervy and tense if she is having one of those days or the weather is turning up a storm.

                      She sounds like such a great partner and teacher. Haha yes the alpha mare can be a tough nut to crack! Keep us posted on your progress getting back in the saddle.
                      https://demirazaespanola.blogspot.com

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                        Originally posted by pryme_thyme View Post

                        OMG what a doll! Lovely classic head. You must be delighted

                        I wonder if he will grey or stay bay? (I can never tell unless they are straight up newborn)
                        He's bay, both mom and dad are bay. I am thrilled.

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                        • #13
                          I have a 1/4 andy filly who is 5 now that I bred who is out of my 1/2andy 1/2 TB mare who was a phenomenal foxhunter and event horse though not for a beginner. My filly was absolutely the worst foal to deal with that I have ever had! I held onto her just because I didn't think she was going to be marketable due to her personality. Well right before she turned 4 she miraculously grew up. At least mentally. She I broke her right after she turned 4 and she was super easy to break and has turned into a great partner. She is super smart and does get bored if you don't make your rides interesting to her but she hasn't given me any trouble and has tried to do everything I have asked of her. She is now my primary mount as her dam has been officially retired and has stepped up and is showing well locally in the hunters. I have also gotten her out on the hunt field this year and we have done some hard core camping/trail riding. She is brave smart and willing to try anything. I absolutely adore her. I am so glad that I held onto her instead of selling her as a weanling like I wanted to.
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