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  • #21
    Another poster said Libero H was not frozen nor shipped cooled. Mares were bred on site across the aisle.

    Amazing statistic: of 600 offspring, 25% have shown internationally.
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    • #22
      I WAS MISTAKEN, blame it on my cold, but Libero H was never frozen. My brain is a fog and I was just plain wrong. If you wish to breed to those bloodlines, you would have to choose either Numero Uno, or Ustinov.

      My (very) bad.
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      • #23
        New keur stallions - from a web site

        Namelus R, Numero Uno and Indorado Keur 16-02-2008

        They are Numero Uno, Namelus R, and Indoctro. These stallions were promoted for reasons described below.
        A remarkably large number of Numero Uno offspring are currently breaking into international show jumping. Given the stallion’s jumping index of 146 and high reliability of 93%, his offspring competing at the national level are also excelling. Numero Uno offspring are often distinguished by their good jumper conformation. They have a nice forehand and frequently inherit their sire’s strong presence. In addition, they are noted for both their trot and canter, which are big, supple, powerful, and balanced. Numero Uno passes on his positive traits to both fillies and colts. Take, for example, his approved sons, such as Tygo, Unaniem, Van Gogh, Viento Uno W, Vincenzo, and Warrant. Numero Uno’s daughter, Willemijn became keur mare champion and the only horse to score 90 points in the IBOP test last year.


        Indorado was a successful international show jumper with Jur Vrieling. The gray stallion has influenced breeding a great deal in past years. This year, he climbed in the jumping index to 141 with a high reliability of 94%. Many of his offspring are international show jumpers. Currently, the KWPN has record of 15 international Grand Prix jumpers and eight international 1.40/1.45m jumpers sired by Indorado. Among the best known are Oranta with Chris Kappler; Eurocommerce Milano and Eurocommerce Lanapoule with Gerco Schröder; and Olona with Cassio Rivetti. Breeding values for conformation show that Indorado produces offspring with very good rectangular shaped bodies. In addition, he passes on a big canter, and his offspring demonstrate abundant talent in free jumping. Furthermore, Indorado offspring, on average, are almost four centimeters taller than their sire. Indorado’s son, Radisson, is available for KWPN breeding.

        Namelus R was bred by Stal Roelofs of Den Ham and is still registered to the stud farm. The dam-line of this Concorde son is also that of Stal Roelofs and includes their much used sires Joost and Abgar xx. Namelus R’s oldest offspring are now nine years old. His index is 160 with 85% reliability. Breeding values for conformation show that Namelus R passes on good conformation. His offspring usually have nice rectangular shaped bodies. They are particularly noted for their powerful push in the canter. Furthermore, this stallion’s offspring generally demonstrate very good reflexes, use their bodies well, and show lots of scope. Namelus R’s first KWPN approved son is Tolan R. Of the 105 Namelus R offspring currently competing in show jumping, 19 are classified at levels Z or ZZ, or compete at the national level.

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        • #24
          Another KWPN Libero H son is Nijinski, full sibling to Ustinov (Libero H x Nimmerdor) if I remember correctly, but I don't know where he stands (if at all) anymore or if he has even retained his approval.

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          • #25
            There is a Libero gelding, #27, in the Han Elite Auction in April

            http://servlet.vit.de/pfauktion/pfliste/liste?id=2050
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            • #26
              How about Ikoon?

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              • #27
                I have all stallions from the Wiemselbach, so Numero Uno, and Ustinov.
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                • #28
                  My Libero H grandfilly is here. Check her out at Youtube. Search for Ikoon filly.

                  She is a jumping bean.
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                  • #29
                    I found six crosses to Achill (born 1849) in Ramiro's pedigree. I bet there are a lot more.

                    Geez, back in the mid-1800s, if there was a nice stallion within driving distance, you used him.

                    Also the Holsteiners seem to really understand linebreeding.
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                    • #30
                      "Also the Holsteiners seem to really understand linebreeding."


                      Boy, do they. At least at the time they were adding in the TB lines.

                      They are famous for the use of Dark Ronald- but not only that descendant of Hampton. I look for the link to Hampton. Hampton, if I recall correctly, also did a little non-flat racing.

                      Ladykiller, whose line begat Landgraf, sire line of dam and sire was Phalaris, but through Fairway and Colorado. The dam lines of Ladykiller were all "Ronald's."

                      Cottage Son, who begat the Capital 1 line, major, major jumping line, was bred Rock Sand/Hampton top and bottom lines.

                      Sacramento Song had the line that Princequillo came from and the Hampton line (Gay Crusader) via his sire, and a dam linebred (if I'm using terminology correctly) to Phalaris and Hampton. (The great Teddy had that line also)

                      If you look at the Thoroughbreds used in the Holsteiner breeding program, you will see a lot of weaving back in of the Hampton line. I use Hampton as the marker because it's not always through Dark Ronald.

                      Man O' War might have had the versatility he had because of the Rock Sand and Hampton in his dam line.

                      Of course, the Holsteiner breeders always had the good mare lines.

                      On edit: The Holsteiner breeders had the good mares of the old Holsteiner lines that they crossed on TB stallions mentioned above. It looks like the Hampton line shows up a lot in the mare line of the TB's they used- maybe that is coincidence. Wonder if that had anything to do with Man O' War's relative success as a broodmare sire?

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                      • #31
                        http://www.sport-horse-breeder.com/Potent-Ramiro.html


                        This is a really interesting piece on inbreeding in Ramiro.

                        Is the Achill the same one in Libero H/
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                        • #32
                          De Wiemselbach is also offering him so there must be frozen semen.

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                          • #33
                            I think Libero H is on their web site as their premiere reference stallion.

                            I don't see any indication of frozen being available.

                            Anyone know if the Achill stallion is the same Achill that appears in Ramiro's pedigree?
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                            • #34
                              Libero H's name is actually Achill 81 Achill from the sire he's decending from and 81 as in the year he was born.

                              If you're looking for the bloodlines of Libero H why don't you look at the former Sire of the World Champion Iowa (Libero H - Nimmerdor)? Approved in SWB, Z and SF. You find him at Haras Brullemail in France http://www.brullemail.com/etalons.php?Id_etalon=7
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                              • #35
                                There are quite a few Achill stallions in the pedigree web site.

                                Are they all in the same line?

                                Most of what I saw was from the 1800s.
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