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  • pregnant mare flipped over this morning

    mare - is 6 months pregnant, got her mouth caught on her blanket buckle at the chest. started freaking out, shaking like she was siezuring, then flipped over on her side, laid there on the ground shaking/siezuring. this is all while she is still hung up on the blanket.
    she finally got loose, stood up and is now eating. but there was blood trickling from her nose.

    what is the likelihood the foal is damaged or could she abort?

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    So sorry to hear of your ordeal this morning. I would personally have a vet out to check. And I am sending you jingles that both the mare and the baby will be ok!!!
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    • #3
      I would get a vet to run DMSO into her. The pregnancy is probably ok as it is well protected, but she may be injured. Banamine can also help if she is having some contractions.

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      • #4
        Please give the vet a call for an emergency visit
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        • #5
          I agree with Fairview, chances are the foal is okay, but it is certainly a good idea to have a vet check done! Pregnancies are a lot more secure than people think! I got bucked off one of my horses (total freak thing, she's never bucked before or since) when I was 4 months pregnant. Scared me more than anything, but as coincidence had it, I had my amnio with in depth ultrasound etc. the next day and everything was fine! First time I had fallen off in quite a while and one of the worst bucks I can remember and it had to happen when I was pregnant! Jingles for your mare and foal! Let us know what happens!
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          • #6
            "Run DMSO into her"???
            What do you mean by that? DMSO is a topical medication ime.



            I would imagine your mare is just fine as is her foal. If you're worried have the vet out. sylvia
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              #7
              thanks everyone.

              we will have the vet out.

              DMSO can and is given IV to help with inflamation. you can always tell if a horse has been on it as the whole barn smells like garlic!!

              keep fingers crossed!

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              • #8
                I also know of a mare who had colic surgery while quite far along in her pregnancy and both came out just fine, and the mare delivered healthy foal a few months later.
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                • #9
                  The "seizureing" and the blood from her nose would tell me that she may have wacked her head. DMSO given either IV or tubed can really prevent the damage caused by brain injurym or spinal injury. I am usually VERY slow to call a vet, but with a possible neuro issue, better safe than sorry.

                  I really, REALLY wish they would approve it for human use. SO much damage & paralysis could be prevented. http://www.dmso.org/articles/information/jacob.htm

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                  • #10
                    Please

                    Please have the vet out!
                    My colt flipped over on me this summer after being attacked by underground wasps, I thought I protected him from hitting his head, and it appeared that he hit more the side of his neck instead. He appeared fine for a few minutes and then suddenly showed vestibular signs and wasn't able to keep his balance. Blood started to drip out of his nose. The vet was on her way, I was able to get dex into him IV before she got there, but it appeared that he had fractured a vertebra and a blood vessel was bleeding into his gutteral pouch. Unfortunately we were unable to stop the bleeding and the vet said that our only hope was that it would clot on its own,by the time the vet arrived he was struggling to breathe and decision to euthanize him.

                    I am now terrified of wasps and when horses rear. Please have her checked out!

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                    • #11
                      I came out of the barn one morning,to see 4 legs streight up in the air. The 9 mo preg mare had tried to roll in the deep snow. got stuck on her back. I had to shovel her out. She was fine. Foaled a great looking colt. Yours will be too. The best

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                      • #12
                        JINGLES!! Keep us posted
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                        • #13
                          Ditto everything Fairview wrote. Jingling that all will be well.

                          rememberthenight, what an awful thing to go through. I am very sorry about your colt. That was truly a freak accident of the worst sort.
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                          • #14
                            Flipping

                            Thank you Homeagain- it was a horrible, horrible experience and the worst 50 minutes of my life! I have had many horses rear and the occasional horse flip, but I will never see a horse going in the air the same way again. I don't think that having a vet any sooner could have saved him, but still I offer my horrible experience as a reminder of the things that can go wrong.

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                            • #15
                              Wow, Remember...that's horrible. I'm so sorry for your loss!

                              Definitely get the vet out, no harm in running DMSO since it certainly sounds like she whacked her head pretty good, and don't worry TOO badly about the pregnancy. It's amazing how strong they are.

                              Fairview, interesting you say that about DMSO being approved for human use. They used to give it to my grandmother, and my mom immediately knew when I'd had my first taste of the stuff (funny, I did taste it, of course, but didn't mean it THAT way...) because she recognized the smell in a nano-second. I don't know why it was used on my grandma, just remember thinking it was kind of cool since I was so absorbed in the horses (oh, wait..I still am!). Never realized it wasn't actually approved for humans because of the family history. Interesting!
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                              • #16
                                I had a vet that swore if one of her kids ever had a spinal injury, she would take them from the hospital, hide around the corner, and run DMSO, then return them. I am sure I would find a way too. Why not give the best chance to not be paralysed?

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                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  thanks everyone

                                  she is doing fine.

                                  is DMSO safe to use on humans? I always use a glove to put it on as i thought it causes cancer. anyone know if that is correct?

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                                  • #18
                                    Mannitol also works to take down the pressure in the brain and can be used with the DMSO. I am not a vet just play on in my spare time, but I have had this exact injury. Seizures in horses are bad! Get the vet out. At least she is not laying there in a coma with blood coming out of her ears and nose. That's what I found, paralysed and comatose. We pulled him through 24 hours before he relapsed, due to a fall, broke his neck but layed there screaming until I put him to sleep myself. Call the vet, get some scull rads and make sure there isn't a basophenoid fx. This is serious.
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                                    • #19
                                      Well just a note about DMSO - It's fine to use if the mare or foal are NOT allergic to it. We've had horses react to it and that's even more of a problem. I'm allergic to Sulpha and can't be anywhere near the stuff.

                                      I'd leave the medication decision to the attending Veterinarian.
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                                      • #20
                                        Snickerdoodle - yes, DMSO is a carcinogen. That is why they stopped using it on us 2-legged folk. It was doing more harm than good.

                                        As far as IV DMSO... Do you guys just pull it straight out of the topical bottle? That screams INFECTION to me as human nurse...

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