• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Your forum sign-up is not complete, you must add an Alias/Screen Name before you can post to the forums. Your name and email is not exposed to Forum users, only the Screen Name is accessible or viewable. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.
    Complete Profile
  • Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.
    Complete Profile

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 2/8/18)
See more
See less

Hunter In Hand - Teaching Jog with head down

Collapse
X
Collapse
  • Page of 1
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous Next
  • #1

    Hunter In Hand - Teaching Jog with head down

    As the title states - how do you teach your youngsters to stretch down for the jog? A pan of grain held under the nose? I don't think I am coordinated enough for that!

    TIA!
    Tags: None
  • #2
    My one filly wanted to be a giraffe when we jogged. I would just go through the whole routine with her, walk around the ring w/ bridle, stand square, walk then jog. Once she got the routine she is great. I only give a treat when they are standing square ( I am not a treat person) or to get their ears up and honestly, after they associate the treats with standing on the line, their ears are up. Just what worked for me. I am sure you'll get lots of opinions.

    The treat ( carrot or peppermint ) worked to get her head down to show off her top line. Crinkling the paper etc. Once it becomes routine, they usually will jog with their head down.
    Come to the dark side, we have cookies

    Comment

    • #3
      Keep your upper body low and arm extended forward (when holding the reins).
      Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

      Comment

      • Original Poster
        #4
        Thanks PB. We have been showing since May and she will stand square for days on end. She knows the routine but I am going to definitely practice at home daily. I have tried the crinkle of the wrapper, and Sunday - a silly band. She is a strange mare and loves them, so I held it in front of her nose, but it didn't work.

        Giraffe-like is the perfect description - she looks like a little horse trying to be big!

        Comment

        • #5
          Originally posted by VirginiaBred View Post
          Keep your upper body low and arm extended forward (when holding the reins).
          Recently, I had my first brush with Hunter Breeding. A dressage breeder had a 2 year old that she thought would be better suited as a hunter and she asked me to show him on the line.

          I was "coached" by one of the experienced Hunter handlers in the area who told me to extend my arm forward and..... have either a peppermint wrapper or even dip my fingers/palm in sugar water before hand so that they horse stretches his neck and nose forward and down.

          Needless to say- it worked beautifully and upward moving dressage 2 year old because long reaching, jogging hunter :-)
          Ryu Equestrian & Facebook Page
          Breeding Horses Today, for the Equestrian Sport of Tomorrow.
          Osteen & Gainesville, Florida.

          Comment

          • #6
            Your right hand should not move much as you jog, and don't hold the reins close to the bit. That way they won't be trying to get away from your hand and you won't be catching them in the teeth with the bit.

            As they do it more they relax and "get it" and the head comes down.

            Comment

            • Original Poster
              #7
              Ok, I am probably guilty of holding the reins too close to the bit - how far down should they be? I am usually 6-8 inches from the bit.

              How low should your body be? I am having difficulty imagining this, but that may be because I am 5'9" and the mare is about 15.2

              I can do peppermint/grain in the palm - I am usually wearing full riding attire, including gloves - but how do you keep them off you when you are standing for the judge if you dip your hand in sugar water?

              Sorry for the basic questions - I just want to get it right and there isn't anyone local to ask!

              Comment

              • #8
                With laced reins I hold them at least as far back as where the laced part starts and sometimes further back toward the buckle, with only 4 inches or so between where my hand is and the buckle end. You want to not interfere with their mouth at all. I don't hold the reins in both hands either, just the right. My right hand stays relatively still, there is enough slack in the rein that when I strike off to jog and cluck horsie follows and the mouth is never touched.

                I am also at their shoulder, gives me room to make two steps and cluck and horse comes with me.

                If the horse doesn't understand jogging at all, I have a lunge whip in my left hand, pointing backward, holding the lash in my hand and when I cluck and strike off I just touch their rump with it. Doing that a couple of times they get it.

                I also carry a bat, not one of those goofy cheap crop things with the little loop, a proper bat/stick, when showing. Your horse should be at least aware that it is supposed to stand still while you show. I wouldn't bring out the crinkly paper until you want the ears up. This is where you get low with your body - put your bat out and let the horse touch it with its nose. Bend at the waist - extend arm holding bat and let horse touch it.

                Go look at James Leslie Parker's photos of Devon Breeding classes, he has everything from the jog to standing them up.

                http://krussell.photobiz.com/cart/events.cfm?categoryID=14429
                Last edited by Seal Harbor; Jul. 14, 2010, 05:45 PM.

                Comment

                • #9
                  So many folks do hold the reins too short and crowd the youngster. Not cool. Out and away goes your hand and sort of crouch down leaning slightly forward as you jog. Works every time!
                  Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

                  Comment

                  • Original Poster
                    #10
                    Ok, I practiced tonight.

                    I did the loose rein - her head was still high, so I broke out the feed. I think she was starting to get it and her last jog was more stretched out towards the pan. I kept it short though because her attention span is short. Will work more tomorrow.

                    I do also carry a bat in the ring when I show. She knows to stand while judged, but I am fairly certain that I am going to have to work on her staying with me better with the looser rein now.

                    Off to go look at those photos...

                    Comment

                    • Original Poster
                      #11
                      Ok, after looking at the photos - my mare's head is not that much higher than those horses.

                      However, when I was thinking of teaching her to stay with me on a loose rein - after looking at the photos I am thinking that I need to run faster to stay with her! Those horses really stretch out and I think I might be hindering that.

                      Re: touching the bat to stretch out - would it be feasible to put something tasty smelling on the end of that?

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        It's not necessary and you don't want your stick in from of the youngster's face. Hold your stick down.
                        Randee Beckman ~Otteridge Farm, LLC (http://on.fb.me/1iJEqvR)~ Marketing Manager - The Clothes Horse & Jennifer Oliver Equine Insurance Specialist

                        Comment

                        Previous Next
                        Working...
                        X