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  • CindyCRNA
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    I got cryptosporidium once from drinking from a water hose like I had done my whole life. Man does it make your stool stink! Very distinctive. Flagyl cleared it up in 2-3 days. Talk about dysentery though. Man!

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  • Ruth0552
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    Thanks for asking. Last weds the 29th I called the nursing agency to see why they hadn’t sent a nurse to do my bloodwork, that’s a story in and off itself, so then I called GI Dr to let them know why I hadn’t done the bloodwork and ask that they send the order to a different lab, and to let them know that I was certain I’d eaten recalled lettuce and I was feeling pretty much the same despite the metronidazole. On Thursday the 30th a staff member called to ask why I hadn’t gotten my bloodwork done and to ask how I was feeling. 🙄 Left the same information with her, again.

    On Friday I got the bloodwork done and on Monday they called to say it was all normal. Since Tuesday I am actually feeling better. Not normal, but not having the same gurgley gut feelings nor the terrible diarrhea.

    I’m guessing it’s not a coincidence that you start to get over Cyclospora on your own after about 4 weeks but who knows. I’m hoping I’ll just continue to get better.

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  • Bogey2
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    Ruth, any update? I am hoping you are feeling better. The healthcare system is getting more difficult to maneuver even in a state with great hospitals.

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  • hoopoe
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    Originally posted by Ruth0552 View Post
    Yup read all about the cyclospora yesterday. I definitely ate tacos with shredded iceburg lettuce from fresh express multiple times in the weeks before the 4th of July. I would have thought I'd be sicker if I had cyclospora but they also say not everyone even shows symptoms. Guess I'll call the GI place back tomorrow... now do I start the metronidazole or not? It does not treat cyclospora.
    no Metro does not treat Cyclo, SMZ/TMP does

    when eliminating products from your diet, you need to give it a good long trail as the bowel needs time to recover and show you the change, it can take weeks, not days

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  • Ruth0552
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    Originally posted by TB_lover View Post
    I get that effect if I take melatonin for sleep alas. A very small percentage of people do. Just a thought in case..
    Really? I started taking Melatonin in May because they said I should stop taking benadryl for sleep. If the metronidazole doesn't work I'll try dropping to Melatonin. I'm just a terrible and very light sleeper.

    I did start it yesterday at lunch. So far so good.

    I did try dropping Dairy for a couple days and it did not solve the problem. My husband does not tolerate lactose very well so I well aware of what that looks like and I really do not think that is it. I did think is was worse a couple times when I'd had a big bowl of ice cream, however, one of the symptoms of giardia also happens to be some temporary lactose intolerance. Milk alone seems to make no difference. The couple days we were out of milk and I didn't have another dairy products did not make me feel any better.

    Thank you all for your suggestions. I will certainly be keeping all of your suggestions in mind. I try hard not to be the pain in the ass patient but I suspect I'm being called a Karen frequently.

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  • TB_lover
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    I get that effect if I take melatonin for sleep alas. A very small percentage of people do. Just a thought in case..

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  • sparkygrace
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    ToughShet, I know someone else who had lymphocytic colitis. Becoming lactose intolerant or having a problem with gluten is common with colitis. Dairy is a huge problem for me, so I stick to lactose free products. I can eat hard cheeses, though. My colitis was probably caused by years of taking Prevacid. I do take a NSAID occasionally for achilles tendon pain even though I am supposed to avoid it.

    Ruth0552, has your doctor suggested dropping dairy from your diet? It's worth a try. Anyone can develop lactose intolerance with no other outstanding medical conditions.

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  • ToughShet
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    Originally posted by sparkygrace View Post
    @Ruth0552,last year I hade similar symptoms. A change in diet, parasite tests, and other stool tests were negative. The problem got worse and worse. and my doctor finally told me she was stumped and I needed a colonoscopy to get a diagnosis. The appointment was two months out and I suffered through the summer. The gastroenterologist did a biopsy of my colon and I was diagnosed with microscopic collagenous colitis, an autoimmune disease. Treatment with a specialized steroid cleared it up, but it has come back. It's worth asking about about. I actually found info about it myself by researching medical journals and the gastro confirmed what I found.

    It took five months before I got a diagnosis and treatment. There was no sense of urgency and I really suffered.

    I also had C. diff years ago. It was caused by overuse of a powerful antibiotic after two oral surgeries You will know if you have it because you will want to DIE.
    +1. Mine wound up being lymphocytic colitis, but that's also only detectable with a colonoscopy. Treatment's pretty iffy, but diet changes helped me (it took awhile to figure out what triggered it. In my case, soy and uncooked dairy have become no-go's.) Also no more NSAIDs for life because that's the one strong correlation they thing merits caution. I'm on a newer drug for my MS that thankfully seems to help, too. There isn't a lot of info out there but I can share what I learned if it ever becomes something your gastros explore.

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  • Ghazzu
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    I'd give the metronidazole a try. It should have a pretty quick effect if it's the right therapy.

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  • Ruth0552
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    Yup read all about the cyclospora yesterday. I definitely ate tacos with shredded iceburg lettuce from fresh express multiple times in the weeks before the 4th of July. I would have thought I'd be sicker if I had cyclospora but they also say not everyone even shows symptoms. Guess I'll call the GI place back tomorrow... now do I start the metronidazole or not? It does not treat cyclospora.

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  • hoopoe
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    Just read there is an outbreak of Cyclospora related to bagged lettuce mixes. See FDA web site

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  • Ruth0552
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    I finally talked to the NP twice on Tuesday. She felt it was unlikely to be Giardia since I had tested negative for it (? Most people do???). I ended up back and forth with her on the phone a couple times and she she was in touch with actual GI Dr who is out. NP did jump straight to wanting to do a colonoscopy, as I suspected she would, but my regular GI doc wants to do some bloodwork and another type of stool sample first, then possibly a bacterial overgrowth test. So we are ruling out a few other things. I still wanted to try a week of metronidazole, NP did not want to prescribe that without a positive test result of some kind, but my GI Dr told her to do it anyways so now I'm starting a week of metronidazole. If I had a bacterial overgrowth I would be treated with antibiotics for several weeks anyways, so... And she mentioned another thing it could be, which would be treated with pepto 3 times a day for a really long time, but I don't remember what it was. It was something found either in the colonoscopy or the 2nd stool sample but I don't remember. I tried taking Pepto though, and it made no difference.

    I am on city water, not a well. I suppose I could have the water tested, but my understanding of giardia is that there is a lot of places you can get it, particularly if you deal with livestock, and it can just chill in your system with no symptoms for quite a while. So I could have gotten it anywhere, if that is in fact, the problem.

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  • WavyRider
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    I had symptoms like this for a long time and it ended up being SIBO (Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth). Worth looking into.

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  • Simkie
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    Are you on a well?

    It might be worth while to test the water if so. It's been a year of weird weather, and an overgrowth of coliform or e coli in the well probably would not show with a stool sample?

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  • LilRanger
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    Did they test the stool for COVID-19 as well? From what I have read, COVID-19 can affect only particular areas, so a nasal-pharygneal swab would not catch it if it's in your GI tract. If when you go back, they have nothing, be sure to ask about that.

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  • sparkygrace
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    @Ruth0552,last year I hade similar symptoms. A change in diet, parasite tests, and other stool tests were negative. The problem got worse and worse. and my doctor finally told me she was stumped and I needed a colonoscopy to get a diagnosis. The appointment was two months out and I suffered through the summer. The gastroenterologist did a biopsy of my colon and I was diagnosed with microscopic collagenous colitis, an autoimmune disease. Treatment with a specialized steroid cleared it up, but it has come back. It's worth asking about about. I actually found info about it myself by researching medical journals and the gastro confirmed what I found.

    It took five months before I got a diagnosis and treatment. There was no sense of urgency and I really suffered.

    I also had C. diff years ago. It was caused by overuse of a powerful antibiotic after two oral surgeries You will know if you have it because you will want to DIE.

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  • Ruth0552
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    Covid test was negative. Stool sample was also all negative. I had to call to get both. I hadn’t heard from either place and it was getting later so I called and got results.

    I’ve called the gastro place AGAIN since then to see when I’ll be hearing back from the NP and have STILL not heard back and it’s after 6 PM. Super peeved. I did tell the gal on the phone that I think I might have Giardia and she said well we tested you for that and it was negative. Are these people idiots or do they think I’m an idiot? Giardia doesn’t show up in every stool sample. Why am I educating them or why are they lying to me? And no, this was not a receptionist, I had pressed the button for medical advice so I think it was a nurse. And for that matter why did I make my husband drive me 30 minutes to an appointment last week and not even get examined? Why couldn’t that have been a zoom/phone appointment?

    After being hospitalized in May and now this, any faith I had left in the medical profession is quickly dwindling. The customer service and patient care that I saw in veterinary medicine when I was a tech (or even now with my own pets) was far better than anything I’ve received.

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  • candyappy
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    Originally posted by Ruth0552 View Post
    Well I think JanM is going to win this one. I looked up symptoms of giardia and it pretty much hit the nail on the head. AND it's notoriously difficult to diagnose, which was also true when I worked as a vet tech, so even if my test comes back negative I could still have it. And poltroon you are so right. I didn't think smell was a diagnostic tool so I didn't mention the fact that my stool and any gas I have smells like a goddamned sewer.

    Anyways. Hopefully by the end of today I'll have all my tests back and all this sorted out.
    I just read this and Giardia was my thought too. Only because my FIL had it once and that was his experience too. When does gas ( or the other) ever smell pleasant??

    Hope it resolves quickly. If you have a well you might need to get your water tested and if you have city water you may want to check it as well and boil first before you use it for drinking or cooking etc..

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  • Ruth0552
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    Well I think JanM is going to win this one. I looked up symptoms of giardia and it pretty much hit the nail on the head. AND it's notoriously difficult to diagnose, which was also true when I worked as a vet tech, so even if my test comes back negative I could still have it. And poltroon you are so right. I didn't think smell was a diagnostic tool so I didn't mention the fact that my stool and any gas I have smells like a goddamned sewer.

    Anyways. Hopefully by the end of today I'll have all my tests back and all this sorted out.

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  • carolprudm
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    Do you eat foods on this list? https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...dmaps#section1

    My recent bouts of heavy duty antibiotics seem to have killed off the critter in my gut that objected to most of the foods on the list but before they gave me explosive gas and, well you know...

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