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Completely Exhausted - Again! What is THIS?***Update post 65***

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  • #61
    shiloh, best of luck as you deal with all this. I agree with the couple of posters who suggested seeing a DO instead of an MD, especially for a primary care doc. I really miss my Colorado DO family practice guy.

    Rebecca

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    • #62
      Have you looked into Myalgic Encephalomyelitis? May times it is lumped in with CFS,but some insist it is a separate disease.

      https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseas...phalomyelitis/

      https://www.cdc.gov/me-cfs/symptoms-.../symptoms.html

      And here's an info/support page I stumbled on while looking for something else.

      https://phoenixrising.me/

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      • #63
        Shiloh, have you tried a liver cleanse? I use a powdered organic superfood that contains milkweed thistle that I bought on Amazon, and it has done wonders for me. The liver has to metabolize your thyroid meds and HRT plus all the other foods and chemicals you’re exposed to. Mine must have lost some of its efficiency due to my age :-)

        I also use a high-quality whole food vitamin and a separate mineral supplement. HRT can deplete vitamins and minerals—most notably magnesium—which could be contributing to your sleep problems.

        I have a rash of sorts called granuloma annulare which seems to flare less when I use my superfood powder. I also had non-symptomatic thyroid nodules which have now gone away. One nodule was complex—partially cystic and partially solid. I had that one ablated but the other ones have either gone away or are too small for me to feel. My neck circumference looks smaller, too.

        If you decide to do a cleanse, start slowly. You may feel slightly worse before you feel better. Please check with your doctor first, too.

        Best wishes to you and everyone who isn’t feeling well. I hope you can get some answers and relief!



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        • #64
          Your symptoms have chronic Lyme written all over it. Problem is, the CDC does not recognize it exist, so doctors cannot legally treat you for it. There are many doctors who will treat it under the radar. You just have to find them. I recently was lucky enough to be bitten by a tick and be able to show the bullseye rash to my doctor. This allowed him to treat me with Doxy for a current Lyme infection. I was not able to take the Doxy since it made me sick to my stomach, so I am now on Amoxicyline which is the good stuff for treating chronic infections. I'm already started to require less sleep after taking it for 4 days.
          "Do what you can't do"

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            #65
            Update: So I have appts with endocrinologist on 10/2, dermatologist on 9/20 and the appt with the surgeon is still pending. And I saw my ob/gyn doc and he added some more labs to the ones I need to have drawn. I waited til I saw him because I only want to get poked once thanks.

            Still tired - came home today and decided to take a quick nap. HA! Head hit pillow at noon and I was asleep until 4p. Wasted day...

            I am going to ask endo guy about chronic Lyme because all along I have suspected and still do suspect this is what I have. Been doing my research on Epstein-Barr and mono and I still don't know whether I want to be mad they didn't tell me of a positive finding so at least I could expect what's happening to me or what. Sticking with annoyed right now because that's what's driving me.
            "Cats aren't clean; they're covered with cat spit."
            - John S Nichols (1745-1846,writer/printer)

            Don't come for me - I didn't send for you.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by shiloh View Post
              Update: So I have appts with endocrinologist on 10/2, dermatologist on 9/20 and the appt with the surgeon is still pending. And I saw my ob/gyn doc and he added some more labs to the ones I need to have drawn. I waited til I saw him because I only want to get poked once thanks.

              Still tired - came home today and decided to take a quick nap. HA! Head hit pillow at noon and I was asleep until 4p. Wasted day...

              I am going to ask endo guy about chronic Lyme because all along I have suspected and still do suspect this is what I have. Been doing my research on Epstein-Barr and mono and I still don't know whether I want to be mad they didn't tell me of a positive finding so at least I could expect what's happening to me or what. Sticking with annoyed right now because that's what's driving me.
              I hope and pray you get some answers. Shiloh, since I first read your thread here, I too thought Lyme.
              What I want to know is how in the HELL the CDC says it does not exist. Insane.
              (((HUGS))))

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Sannois View Post

                I hope and pray you get some answers. Shiloh, since I first read your thread here, I too thought Lyme.
                What I want to know is how in the HELL the CDC says it does not exist. Insane.
                (((HUGS))))
                My understanding is, it is due to the blood tests being so expensive and the sheer number of affected people is simply an insurance company profit buster. It's more an issue of insurance lobby buying off Washington than about patient care. Also that little thing about Lyme most likely being a man made disease never looks good.

                OP, if you do get the brush off about Lyme, Monolaurin and some other natural remedies exist to kill off the infection.
                "Do what you can't do"

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