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Update to Forum Rules: Criminal Allegations

In our continuing effort to provide an avenue for individuals to voice their opinions and experiences, we have recently reviewed and updated our forum policies. Generally, we have allowed users to share their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, trainers, etc. within the industry, and that is not changing.

When it came to overt criminal allegations, however, those discussions have in the past needed to stem from a report by a reputable news source or action by law enforcement or the legal system.

We are now expanding our policies to allow posters to share their own first-hand experiences involving overt criminal allegations, such as animal abuse or neglect, theft, etc., but only if they publicly provide their full first and last name along with the post. We still will not allow anonymous postings alleging criminal activity.

So, a user may now make a specific claim against a named individual or company, but it must be a FIRST-HAND account, and they have to IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. Users have always been legally responsible for their posts, and nothing has changed there, but we want to loosen the reins a bit and further allow the free flow of discussion and information relevant to the horse community.

We are not providing a free-for-all of anonymous rumor-mongering. As enduring advocates for the welfare of the horse, we want to provide a forum for those willing to sign their name and shine a light on issues of concern to them in the industry.

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  • Hope the meds kick in fast, this hour of night everything kinda grabs at one, but dawn always comes and the shadows disperse.
    We are still here, even though I suck at emailing, I'm checking in
    Glad the cats got their stuff sorted into a peaceable group, my cats did the same once they were on the holy-of-holies, aka the bed.
    Everyone behaved there, despite their differences, peace.

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    • Hang in there Sannois.

      Pain control is difficult but you must be "pro-active" and insist on pain control balanced with the constipation issue.

      It is possible. You must insist that a balance be met. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Not a cliche for nothing.

      I do understand pain and how it affects a persons state of mind. I think you are perhaps being a little harsh towards people who obviously care about you, but may necessarily have to have time away from the computer or are only able to pop in and out.

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        Originally posted by skydy View Post
        Hang in there Sannois.

        Pain control is difficult but you must be "pro-active" and insist on pain control balanced with the constipation issue.

        It is possible. You must insist that a balance be met. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Not a cliche for nothing.

        I do understand pain and how it affects a persons state of mind. I think you are perhaps being a little harsh towards people who obviously care about you, but may necessarily have to have time away from the computer or are only able to pop in and out.
        I'm sorry guys, that was the pain talking, and yes at that hour and how bad it was I almost feel a little nuts. It is somewhat better now, but still a dull ache. From what I understand the palative care folks know about pain stuff that will adress specific types of pain, without making other problems worse. Must get away from the opioids. AGH~ 8 am I will be on the horn to the Cancer center. Forgive my harshness, I love you guys!

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        • I’m sorry to read that you hit a rough spot. Hopefully you can get the NP on the ball so meds can be straightened out and the pain can be controlled. I check in here a couple times a day, but nothing is happening in my neck of the woods. Well, I could talk about how nice all the cloudy days are, but but that’s just my vampire side showing and I’m one of the few who likes days like that. I didn’t save your email because I suck at emailing my friends. I rarely open my gmail account anymore.

          I understand you not wanting to post a lot of private info on your progress through this, but appreciate what you share, so post when you can. We care, and want to support you anyway we can.

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          • During my commute I was musing on "I want to break everything....".
            Believe it or not there are places that cater to that need, and it is therapeutic. Foogle
            "Breaking Things Therapy near me".
            To all here Your Welcome

            I was familiar long ago that Greek restaurants sometimes offered this (cheap plates you could throw against a wall) but it appears to have become a "thing" now.

            edited to add: "Foogle" ? Okay that's a new Freudian slip on my part. I am a googling fool ??!!..

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            • A secret santa, how fun!!!
              ~Veronica
              "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
              http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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              • {{Kim}}

                If you need to vent, howl, whine, complain... have at it.

                You are so often in my thoughts. Wish we lived closer

                I'll drop a short email for you {{}}
                If you see your glass as half empty, pour it into a smaller glass and stop b*tching

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                • Sorry you are feeling crappy. Pain is like a rust that eats you from the inside.

                  This cat video came up on my Facebook yesterday. Hysterical!


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                  • I totally understand the pain talking. My RA pain not only talks, it starts arguments and certainly tries to run my life. I hope you get some help, fast, from the palliative folks. Hugs.

                    Rebecca

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                    • Originally posted by SmartAlex View Post
                      Sorry you are feeling crappy. Pain is like a rust that eats you from the inside.

                      This cat video came up on my Facebook yesterday. Hysterical!

                      He may have been raised by ducks, you think?

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                      • Originally posted by Sannois View Post
                        I was going to tell you guys this earlier, but I decided to now.
                        I made a decision to go back into treatment. Talked to the NP today, set up an appointment for the 29th with new oncologist. I want to live longer, and hell what have I got to lose!!!
                        I never felt better right now. Mentally. I am not ready to die!! Nope just not!
                        I am going to give it the good Irish try. there are a few other treatments that were an option that I did not go with before. I will wait while you all get back up in your chairs~!!!
                        The oncologist was not able to offer you anything?

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                        • I hope you're able to get pain management worked out soon! Hopefully having a house full of cats gives you some comfort. I know my dogs can always lift my mood (although I haven't needed them for anything as severe as cancer)

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                          • House Guests...

                            I don’t think this one will be using my computer though!!


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                            "He's not even a good pathological liar." Mara

                            "You're just a very desperate troll, and not even a good one. You're like middle-school troll at best. Like a goblin, not even a troll." et_fig

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                            • Kim, I hope you got a response from the NP and that you are resting comfortably right now. We’re all here for you, don’t hesitate to share your pain or frustration right along with your Zoom stories! Hugs to you.

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                                Originally posted by Joanne View Post

                                The oncologist was not able to offer you anything?
                                Yeah, I have not bothered to tell you the gory details, he had a god complex, and basically 30 something and all about stats! He said you should not have stopped Chemo. Made me nuts. He had his head stuck in the computer the whole time, What I did get him to agree to was a consult with a radiation oncologist, for palative care, at the very least to shrink the tumor for comfort. I need to write paragraphs on his negativity.

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                                  Oh My Word! that cat is hysterical, S.A. And people say they have no personality.

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                                    Originally posted by PKP View Post
                                    Kim, I hope you got a response from the NP and that you are resting comfortably right now. We’re all here for you, don’t hesitate to share your pain or frustration right along with your Zoom stories! Hugs to you.
                                    I am calling today, it has been since Monday, and hell, I am a bit pissed off. I talked to a friend, she said there are loads of drugs for pain that are not opioids! Rrrrrrrrrrrr

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                                      OHHHHHH!! KBC, is that a Scottie Puppy?? Had one when I was a small child, his name was "Scotty" LOL
                                      That is one of my all time favorite small dog breeds!

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                                      • Sannois, you are so making me want a kitten. But my oldster, unlike yours, couldn't handle it. She is hanging in there better than I could have hoped. I thought Thanksgiving was going to be it, and then she rallied like no animal has ever rallied before. But a new animal would be way too much for her. So I have to live vicariously through you!
                                        ~Veronica
                                        "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                                        http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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                                        • Kim: Did you join Smart Patients for your cancer?

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