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Update to Forum Rules: Criminal Allegations

In our continuing effort to provide an avenue for individuals to voice their opinions and experiences, we have recently reviewed and updated our forum policies. Generally, we have allowed users to share their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, trainers, etc. within the industry, and that is not changing.

When it came to overt criminal allegations, however, those discussions have in the past needed to stem from a report by a reputable news source or action by law enforcement or the legal system.

We are now expanding our policies to allow posters to share their own first-hand experiences involving overt criminal allegations, such as animal abuse or neglect, theft, etc., but only if they publicly provide their full first and last name along with the post. We still will not allow anonymous postings alleging criminal activity.

So, a user may now make a specific claim against a named individual or company, but it must be a FIRST-HAND account, and they have to IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. Users have always been legally responsible for their posts, and nothing has changed there, but we want to loosen the reins a bit and further allow the free flow of discussion and information relevant to the horse community.

We are not providing a free-for-all of anonymous rumor-mongering. As enduring advocates for the welfare of the horse, we want to provide a forum for those willing to sign their name and shine a light on issues of concern to them in the industry.

The full revised rules are posted at the top of each forum for reference.
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  • Sannois Now that made me smile, not that you are having technology issues, but seeing you post...you had a lot of worried people here.
    "He's not even a good pathological liar." Mara

    Practicing Member of the Not too Klassy for Boxed Wine Clique

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    • Yeah, there isn't any sig line showing. Kim, are you staying here, or moving to another forum?

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        Originally posted by Callista17 View Post
        Yeah, there isn't any sig line showing. Kim, are you staying here, or moving to another forum?
        Why would I move??
        I hope to not have anymore internet issues, but I am still fed up with this Jet Pack thing.
        IT actually said this morning no service available.
        WHAT?? Severe clear weather? full bars? and it is only 5 months old.
        I am feeling really good. I have done so much to change my diet in the last 6 months, I am actually feeling alomst normal. You know no one ever listens to doctors, I have so many people that have lived way beyond the so call time limit set by docs. I should be dead my now if I was the believe the 400 dollar an hour oncologist.
        Plus I truthfully feel better than before I was sick, or knew I was sick.
        Todd and I are going next Friday up the Mackinac Island for a few days. it will be a blast. neither of us have ever been.
        and that is a sin since we have both lived in Michigan over 35 years.
        I am going to drive.. Carts that is.. we found this great livery that rents carriages and you can drive yourself and shop all over the island. oh in case you did not know, there are no motor vehicles anywhere on the island. Yes we will getr pictures. I really am sorry I freaked everyone out. but I am not dying anytime soon.

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        • I have heard about the island, and it sounds terrific!

          Glad to hear you are doing so well. I recently tried to eat differently and it was terrific, but if I get behind on cooking ahead/prepping, I fall back into eating poorly.

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          • I am so glad to hear you are feeling well. I haven’t disappeared, it just seems like it. I have been up to my elbows in elder care and my own care (rehabbing from back surgery) not to mention work. I am keeping up with this thread.

            I know what you mean by missing out on something close. There are so many things locally or in Idaho that I want to see/do. Therefore...tentative retirement date of early 2019 . No time like now!

            Enjoy your trip.

            Susan

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            • Yay! Glad you are feeling good. Count me among the concerned.

              Doctors tried to fix me with drugs and surgery for years... I eventually came across a world class chiropractor by serendipity. He changed my diet a bunch, helped me heal. Hardly anything wrong with my spine, but my neurological system was haywire for a very long time.
              And turns out that I probably have celiac disease.
              Anyway, good chiropractor got me functional again, working full time again, and riding again.


              Enjoy the driving on Mackinac island.

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              • Originally posted by Callista17 View Post
                Yeah, there isn't any sig line showing. Kim, are you staying here, or moving to another forum?
                Here is the link to the other forum .... it is like OT day used to be. It has a political discussion part and a general part. Everyone has kept their COTH name so it is not confusing.

                theotherboard.boards.net

                SCM1959

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                • Originally posted by HannahsMom7 View Post

                  the search is broken. I can't seem to find that person and I tried last week? but didn't see anything in the sig line
                  That's odd.

                  Ask Sannois or Shiloh...they have both joined and have the link. There's a bunch of posters on this thread that has it.

                  I did have it but deleted the pm it came in so I can't help you.
                  Mean Girls grow up to be Mean Women

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                  • Originally posted by CanadianTrotter View Post

                    That's odd.

                    Ask Sannois or Shiloh...they have both joined and have the link. There's a bunch of posters on this thread that has it.

                    I did have it but deleted the pm it came in so I can't help you.
                    I can help with link and please come on over! On behalf of that board's actual founders - Welcome to all!

                    http://theotherboard.boards.net/

                    You can't use your CoTH sign-on - you will need to register, but everyone has registered using their CoTH names.

                    Kim - just one word for your visit to Mackinac Island - FUDGE!!!!! Okay - well, maybe a few more - don't they have horse drawn carts there? Yes to that. While eating fudge.
                    "Cats aren't clean; they're covered with cat spit."
                    - John S Nichols (1745-1846,writer/printer)

                    Don't come for me - I didn't send for you.

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                      Originally posted by shiloh View Post

                      I can help with link and please come on over! On behalf of that board's actual founders - Welcome to all!

                      http://theotherboard.boards.net/

                      You can't use your CoTH sign-on - you will need to register, but everyone has registered using their CoTH names.

                      Kim - just one word for your visit to Mackinac Island - FUDGE!!!!! Okay - well, maybe a few more - don't they have horse drawn carts there? Yes to that. While eating fudge.
                      You know it is really a shame, The mods here, I know they are trying to run a huge board and have for many years.
                      But to lose the Off topic here, and to lose a whole bunch of folks to another board, well it is a shame.
                      And Shiloh, yes FUDGE!!! they call folks who come up from the lower portion of michigan Fudgies!
                      And Yes if you read my post above we are renting a buggy, and I am driving
                      They are all drafts or draft crosses. nice and mellow. Should be a bunch of fun.

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                        Originally posted by Callista17 View Post
                        Yeah, there isn't any sig line showing. Kim, are you staying here, or moving to another forum?
                        I realize it must have looked that way, since I got my Laptop back on Tues, I posted about the hurricane on the other board.
                        Then I kept having issues with this damn Jet Pack Wi fi.
                        I just could not get on the internet. It is still doing it on and off, and no earthly reason.
                        Sick of paying money to not have a reliable source.

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                          Well by the 25th of Sept I will be well rid of Verizon wirelessl I signed up for a local wireless service, Todd uses it and it is unlimited and very reliable. Just finally had it when this am it said no service available. So I called this other place and made an appointment!
                          Now I cannot help wonder if my strange email thing going on has to do with Gmail or Verizon. Either way,
                          Everyone that I email except maybe 5 people I never hear back from,after I reply to them. I mean It is so weird.
                          Even a few folks in real life have said they never got emails. WTF?
                          I am thinking of going back to my Yahoo account, I still have it still can get into it and I never had these problems.
                          I am not a huge fan of Google at all. I would be happy to ditch them right along with Verizon Wireless.
                          Ohhh am I ruthless??

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                          • Ye you are ruthless, if ruthless means that you want something you pay for to actually work..
                            "He's not even a good pathological liar." Mara

                            Practicing Member of the Not too Klassy for Boxed Wine Clique

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                            • Have fun at Mackinac. I'm jealous! I saw a news clip several years ago about the island and the horses, the horses shown knew their way all around the island and did the route pretty much without any input. The two guys in the wagon, the driver and the interviewer, just gabbed away, not paying much attention to business while the horses carried on

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                              • Oh, I will re send my last email then!

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                                • I got rid of Verizon a couple years ago. Totally unreliable. Plus, both they and ATT said they were going to have wireless coverage in my area in one year. That was three years ago and nothing. Crickets. Once you leave the city limits and cross the main highway it's a no coverage zone for every single carrier. Grrr - wake up you idiots.
                                  "Cats aren't clean; they're covered with cat spit."
                                  - John S Nichols (1745-1846,writer/printer)

                                  Don't come for me - I didn't send for you.

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                                    Originally posted by shiloh View Post
                                    I got rid of Verizon a couple years ago. Totally unreliable. Plus, both they and ATT said they were going to have wireless coverage in my area in one year. That was three years ago and nothing. Crickets. Once you leave the city limits and cross the main highway it's a no coverage zone for every single carrier. Grrr - wake up you idiots.
                                    Pretty much. I am just tired of being over charged and not getting the service.
                                    So over them.

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                                    • Well, I tried to edit but accidentally erased the whole thing. It was a terrible, terrible typo.
                                      Last edited by rubygirl1968; Sep. 15, 2018, 04:34 PM.

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                                        Originally posted by rubygirl1968 View Post
                                        Kum, I hope you have a wonderful trip and enjoy driving on Mackinac Island! I've never been there but my step mom has been several times and loved it!

                                        I hope you can get your wireless service woes straightened out soon.
                                        Okay that is a strange way to spell my name!!

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                                        • Originally posted by Sannois View Post

                                          Okay that is a strange way to spell my name!!
                                          Hahaha, I'm so sorry! I obviously fat fingered it... stupid phones.

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