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  • #41
    Originally posted by Where'sMyWhite View Post
    BTW, I noticed yesterday on some of the auction ring snippets on TVG (on TV), I saw what looked like a star or something similar on the hip under the hip number?

    What would that have been and what might it have indicated?
    The consignor I worked for used stickers under the hip number to denote catalog page updates (such as if a half sibling had a black type win or placing since the time of the catalog publish date). They used other stickers if the horse was a NY-Bred or PA-Bred and was eligible for what was (at the time) some enticing state funded racing incentive programs.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by skydy View Post

      I believe the videos came to be for consignors to show their yearlings to buyers who use agents to pick their horses and who don't go to the sales, let alone to the farms. They may fall for a certain horse, you never know. It is a marketing technique that may help, the "may" being the reason that most hip #'s don't have walking video.

      The agents and buyers who attend the sales go to the barns at the sale and ask that the horses they have short listed be taken out of the stall and walked for them. Some of the yearlings do a lot of walking!
      I know what you mean about the videos - but it's like buying a riding horse off the video. The video is very limited, and what you see in person is much more worthwhile. For sales such as Keeneland September, many serious agents have seen the colts they are interested in once at the farm and will see them again at the sale.
      "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in a confederatcy against him."

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        #43
        Oh Laurie, he was gorgeous!

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          #44
          Originally posted by Palm Beach View Post

          I know what you mean about the videos - but it's like buying a riding horse off the video. The video is very limited, and what you see in person is much more worthwhile. For sales such as Keeneland September, many serious agents have seen the colts they are interested in once at the farm and will see them again at the sale.
          Yes of course buyers (as the term applies to the person who will own the horse, not the agent) that are involved owners won't buy from a video. However, there are some owners who are interested only in the social aspect of racing (coming to the races to see their horse run and making a day of it with their friends) and not so much in the actual horse aspect of racing.

          Those folks tend to leave the buying decisions as well as the rest of the the horse's career to their agent and/or trainer.

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            #45
            I noticed a star looking tag on one of the hip numbers today and looked at the page. Horse was Kentucky bred and nominated for the Breeders Cup but there were many that were both, and didn't have the extra tag. Hmm.

            Someone will know.

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            • #46
              Some of the extra tags are a new trend started by the stud farms. I don't know the exact details, but a rep from Spendthrift came by today, requesting that the consignor add Spendthrift stickers to the horses by Spendthrift sires (I'm sure there's an attached incentive program for buyers if the horse races well). I noticed a WinStar logo sticker on someone else's yearling, so I'd imagine they are doing something similar.

              As someone else said, some consignors (like Taylor Made) add colored stickers below the hips if the horse has an update to the catalog.

              I'm working through Book 2. Happy to answer any questions. Some NICE NICE horses in Book 1-2. Some nice ones on paper, too, who RNA'd for disappointing prices....but without seeing the vet report, it's hard to know why buyers were turned off.

              And for people out there who say all TBs are downhill, low-shouldered and poorly conformed for sport horse purposes... I challenge them to look at horses in Book 1-2 at Keeneland, and see what the BEST in the business are trying to breed (hint: it's not a downhill sprinting QH lookalike with crappy feet). There are MANY lovely athletes who could excel in a wide range of sports, but these aren't likely to filter down to the sport horse ranks on CANTER anytime soon.
              “A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it.”
              ? Albert Einstein

              ~AJ~

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              • #47
                Hahaha you tell em EventerAJ. My eyes roll in my head at warp nine when I hear someone say "all tb's are so frail and spindly looking". Dum nutz

                Anything you want to add or comment on please post. I'm looking thru videos and going back to ones that sold but it's a losing battle. I should have written down the ones I wanted to track.
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                • #48
                  Dang, #405 went for $17k, a CandyRide colt. I could have hocked my car and got him.
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Gestalt View Post
                    Hahaha you tell em EventerAJ. My eyes roll in my head at warp nine when I hear someone say "all tb's are so frail and spindly looking". Dum nutz

                    Anything you want to add or comment on please post. I'm looking thru videos and going back to ones that sold but it's a losing battle. I should have written down the ones I wanted to track.
                    It takes time to study the breeding and look at the horses and get to know what characteristics stallions contribute and which dam lines produce consistently good conformation. Of course the best are seen at the good sales or kept on the farm for breeding.. Many RNAs are kept by the breeder to race.

                    I too have to write them down in advance of the sales.I usually do it properly but this year had to scribble when I had the chance, since I was off line for awhile.

                    So proud of our LaurieB. She really values her mares and chooses carefully which stallion she uses for each mare.. Every yearling she's had in the sales (for years now) has been well bred and a looker.to boot. LaurieB you are a great example of the best sort that breeds horses to race. Well done!

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Gestalt View Post
                      Dang, #405 went for $17k, a CandyRide colt. I could have hocked my car and got him.
                      Your car may be the better investment!
                      "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in a confederatcy against him."

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                      • #51
                        Originally posted by skydy View Post

                        It takes time to study the breeding and look at the horses and get to know what characteristics stallions contribute and which dam lines produce consistently good conformation. Of course the best are seen at the good sales or kept on the farm for breeding.. Many RNAs are kept by the breeder to race.

                        I too have to write them down in advance of the sales.I usually do it properly but this year had to scribble when I had the chance, since I was off line for awhile.

                        So proud of our LaurieB. She really values her mares and chooses carefully which stallion she uses for each mare.. Every yearling she's had in the sales (for years now) has been well bred and a looker.to boot. LaurieB you are a great example of the best sort that breeds horses to race. Well done!
                        Also, some consignors have an RNA sale night back at the farm, where buyers are invited to come take another look and see if they can get a sale done.

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                        • #52
                          Originally posted by EventerAJ View Post
                          Some of the extra tags are a new trend started by the stud farms. I don't know the exact details, but a rep from Spendthrift came by today, requesting that the consignor add Spendthrift stickers to the horses by Spendthrift sires (I'm sure there's an attached incentive program for buyers if the horse races well). I noticed a WinStar logo sticker on someone else's yearling, so I'd imagine they are doing something similar.

                          As someone else said, some consignors (like Taylor Made) add colored stickers below the hips if the horse has an update to the catalog.

                          I'm working through Book 2. Happy to answer any questions. Some NICE NICE horses in Book 1-2. Some nice ones on paper, too, who RNA'd for disappointing prices....but without seeing the vet report, it's hard to know why buyers were turned off.

                          And for people out there who say all TBs are downhill, low-shouldered and poorly conformed for sport horse purposes... I challenge them to look at horses in Book 1-2 at Keeneland, and see what the BEST in the business are trying to breed (hint: it's not a downhill sprinting QH lookalike with crappy feet). There are MANY lovely athletes who could excel in a wide range of sports, but these aren't likely to filter down to the sport horse ranks on CANTER anytime soon.
                          Yup, I'm pretty sure it was Taylor Made that started the sticker thing long ago. They have a pretty savvy marketing department.

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                          • #53
                            Thanks for the clarification on the "extra" stickers under the hip number When all you see is a white blob under the hip when you're watching even on TV, hard to tell what it is.

                            Bummer LaurieB's Animal Kingdom colt RNA'd. Laurie, hope you'll keep us posted if he sells or if you decide to try him yourselves on the track.
                            No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. - Eleanor Roosevelt
                            For you to insult me, I must first value your opinion - Unknown
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                            • #54
                              The Tapit - Fun House colt only sold for $275,000. Does that mean he didn't "tick all the boxes?"

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                              • #55
                                my pick was honor code's maternal brother by Tapit. dark bay with plenty of chrome. RNA'd at just over a million. Just a lovely; balanced colt.

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                                • #56
                                  Did you see the video of HIp 44 by Orb. Oh m;y what a lovely filly.

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                                  • #57
                                    Ill take hip number 62 by Malibu Moon out of Oatsee. What a stunning; uphill run on her

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                                    • #58
                                      #62 chestnut colt had a terrific walk. Nice one!

                                      #153 colt by Candy Ride rna'd @ 1,900,000
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                                      • #59
                                        Originally posted by Gestalt View Post
                                        #62 chestnut colt had a terrific walk. Nice one!

                                        #153 colt by Candy Ride rna'd @ 1,900,000
                                        Hip 153 is a full brother to Shared Belief, I think his breeder is going to keep and race him.

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                                          #60
                                          Originally posted by snaffle1987 View Post
                                          Did you see the video of HIp 44 by Orb. Oh m;y what a lovely filly.
                                          #44 was on my list (page 2 of this thread) too. Sold for 260K.

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