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NO!!!! George Washington - dislocated ankle. No hope :(

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  • NO!!!! George Washington - dislocated ankle. No hope :(

    Sometimes I hate this effing sport. Sorry.
    "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain

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    RIP poor boy.

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    • #3
      R.I.P

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      • #4
        I just want to curse and cry at the same time. I was just thinking, before the race, "What a cool horse..."
        "No, not anything goes, I said no rules!"

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        • #5
          sad that they pulled the ol boy out of retirement...should have let him be!

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            #6
            Originally posted by excowgirlie View Post
            sad that they pulled the ol boy out of retirement...should have let him be!
            Only a select few know how to do that.
            "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain

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            • #7
              I can see them pulling him out of retirement but he showed last year he couldn't handle dirt and this year he wasn't even able to WIN. WHY was he even here? They said they had nothing to lose. Well George sure did. What a waste.
              Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground.

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                #8
                You could see right at the get go this horse wasnt going to make it. Slip sliding all over the place. He won a ton on grass, he couldn't procreate, so they bring him back to run on dirt? Is there no end to peoples' greed? And you can bet it was not Aiden's decision to run him.
                "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Iride View Post
                  You could see right at the get go this horse wasnt going to make it. Slip sliding all over the place. He won a ton on grass, he couldn't procreate, so they bring him back to run on dirt? Is there no end to peoples' greed? And you can bet it was not Aiden's decision to run him.
                  Get a clue.
                  It was Aidan's decision to run him.
                  He was originally scheduled to run in the Champion Stakes in Newmarket last week, but Aidan O'B after talking to Mick Kinane suggested to Messer's Tabor, Magnier and Smith that they take a crack a the Classic.

                  And give over the damn greed bullshit. People race horses, that's what they do with them. By your dumb logic, John Henry shouldn't have been raced till he was 9. I mean he's already won enough money by the time he was 5. Why did they keeping running him? Was it greed?

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                    #10
                    Apples and oranges.
                    "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain

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                    • #11
                      To add, 1. they didn't "bring him back to run on dirt". and 2. his classic last year wasn't that bad.

                      I, like everybody, feel awful about this-but pointing fingers does no good.

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                      • #12
                        Nope, there is no end to the greed.

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                        • #13
                          poor george washington

                          I wasn't watching the race when this happened, I just saw it reported online so sad. pictures like this break my heart http://sports.yahoo.com/rah/photo?sl...sic&prov=getty

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Iride View Post
                            Apples and oranges.
                            I don't see how it's apples and oranges - two horses with fertility issues (assuming you consider gelding a fertility issue) running after they had already been champion.

                            No one is going to argue that breakdowns are awful - it's a part of the sport than anyone would love to eliminate. But most days we are complaining that all of the top horses are retiring after a 3 year-old campaign and heading to the breeding shed. Personally I find it disappointing that we never get to see how most of them would develop at four. It's hard for casual race fans to get to get involved in events like BC because most of the horses will only run one year and there are few familiar names on the card (except the spring classic winners).

                            I'm very sad that George Washington was euthanized. I think it's a great loss to the sport. But despite the risk, I wish more horses ran back again after their 3 year-old season. I don't consider it greed. I think it improves the sport.

                            Condolences to the connections of George Washington and all of his fans.

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                            • #15
                              Dont like horse racing and the risked then I'd advise you not even get involved in the sport nor watch from now on. I dont hear this out cry for the heads of the connections of the poor horse at ROLEX this past year. I breed and own racehorses...and was a 3 day event rider for MANY MANY years...these things do happen.

                              As for as this being about greed...GIVE ME A BREAK. the people who owned Geo Washington are very wealthy...let me say this again...VERY FREEKING WEALTHY! I dont get some of you people...retire a horse at 3 and you all bicker about ending careers too soon....then you bicker about a horses comeback. Guess what cheap claimers breakdown all of the time....I dont hear you bickering about them. Just because they arent on TV doesnt mean they dont happen.

                              I have seen far more grotesque acts of poor choises for a horses training, and career in the sporthorse world...Hunter forced to pack kids around jump courses, loaded with bute and banemine! Dressage horses who were too sore to finish a lesson on a Thursday compete at Prix St geo on a Sat. If you think this sort of thing doesnt happen an ALL FORMS OF EQUINE SPORT...think again!

                              Im sorry...surely I have ruffled a few feather in my comments...but I just get sick and tired of people pointing fingers at horse racing...like we are some kind of martyrs. The vet bills for my few racehorses I know for a fact EXCEED those of ALL the showhorses in my barn. Do you think for one minuet any of these SHOWHHORSE owners will spend a dime on x rays and ultrasounds? No! They come to me and ask "is my horse off...should I give bute...should I wrap her in a sweat?" ...and my reply? "Have the horse vetted and know for sure what you are dealing with!" But no the horses is off to a show in a few days...Talk about greedy...to tight with their own money for the vet...but are happy to shell out a few hundred dollars on shipping, trainers fees, show bills, grounds fees, etc...PA-LEEZE!

                              It is sad when it does happen...just like its sad when a racecar driver is killed, or a football player died from injuries sustained on the field of play...all for our enjoyment.

                              Geo Washington was a very nice horse...he will be missed and I'm sure today is a sorrowful day in their barns. God Bless...God Speed.
                              To love a Thoroughbred is to truely live and enjoy life. www.horsepowercompany.com

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                              • #16
                                This is not to take away from GW, but...

                                It is interesting that there were ~70 some posts about the breeders cup leading into saturday. After the very sad breakdown, there are now over 50 posts for GW. It is sweet, but do any of you watch any racing during non national TV days? I don't see anybody upset about the horse that broke down in the (hypothetical) 5th on a Wednesday somewhere. It is just as sad but it happens. But it is annoying that people react to only a big race on national tv.

                                A far as "greed" goes, I don't knw the connections so who am I to judge? They have one of the nicest operations in the world. This is horse racing, thats what they do. If the horse was not conditioned properly to race, that is one thing.

                                I think the point many of us are trying to make is, blaming horse racing or trainers or owners does no good. And coming out of the woodwork on big days being critical is ignorant. It was a VERY VERY sad outcome for GW and that is what I am upset about, just like I would be for that horse in the 5th. And I am very sad for the connections of the horse. Their grief, and for those fans of his in Europe (which far outnumber us here), I am very sorry.

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                                • #17
                                  and it sucked watching GW's connections stand along the rail and cry as thier horse was put down. apparently, it was open fractures of both sesamoids. what a shame. stop the finger pointing, it's just low class.
                                  Different Times Equestrian Ventures at Hidden Spring Ranch
                                  www.DifferentTimesEquestrianVentures.com

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by horsepowerco View Post
                                    Dont like horse racing and the risked then I'd advise you not even get involved in the sport nor watch from now on. I dont hear this out cry for the heads of the connections of the poor horse at ROLEX this past year. I breed and own racehorses...and was a 3 day event rider for MANY MANY years...these things do happen.
                                    Actually, there was a huge, world wide uproar over the Amy Tryon fiasco (and the subsequent slap on the wrist she received from the FEI). Eventing is second only to racing in fatal equine injuries. And as they say, two wrongs don't make it right.

                                    I have seen far more grotesque acts of poor choises for a horses training, and career in the sporthorse world...Hunter forced to pack kids around jump courses, loaded with bute and banemine! Dressage horses who were too sore to finish a lesson on a Thursday compete at Prix St geo on a Sat. If you think this sort of thing doesnt happen an ALL FORMS OF EQUINE SPORT...think again!
                                    Of course there is abuse everywhere but it's not common for horses in other athletic pursuits suffer from catastrophic injuries all too often seen in TB racing. And yes, I'm sure the low end claimers have a higher rate of such injuries, which further gives TB racing a bad name.

                                    Im sorry...surely I have ruffled a few feather in my comments...but I just get sick and tired of people pointing fingers at horse racing...like we are some kind of martyrs. The vet bills for my few racehorses I know for a fact EXCEED those of ALL the showhorses in my barn.
                                    No feather ruffled here but did you ever wonder why you have so many vet bills? And martyr is not the word I would chose.

                                    Do you think for one minuet any of these SHOWHHORSE owners will spend a dime on x rays and ultrasounds? No!
                                    That's quite a generalization, isn't it? I've spent PLENTY on my show horses and except for a long retired, chronically foundered mare, none have had a serious lameness problem while being shown. Oh, and I don't dump my horses when they are no longer competitive or past their prime. I've spent as much, if not more, on the old timers to keep them as healthy as possible. They deserve that much.

                                    They come to me and ask "is my horse off...should I give bute...should I wrap her in a sweat?" ...and my reply? "Have the horse vetted and know for sure what you are dealing with!" But no the horses is off to a show in a few days...Talk about greedy...to tight with their own money for the vet...but are happy to shell out a few hundred dollars on shipping, trainers fees, show bills, grounds fees, etc...PA-LEEZE!
                                    I agree with this. I too have been exposed to far too many clueless, cheap-wads in show barns. The type who think nothing of buying the latest over priced custom saddles, breeches and boots yet shop around for the lowest cost farrier in town. Then wonder why their horses are always lame? Can't say things are much better at the low end tracks, though. Can you? Ever see how many horrible feet and cheap shoe jobs there are on the majority of still racing "trainer owned" horses on the Canter USA sites?

                                    It is sad when it does happen...just like its sad when a racecar driver is killed, or a football player died from injuries sustained on the field of play...all for our enjoyment.
                                    Apples to oranges. Human adult athletes choose to compete. Horses have no choice in the matter. BIG difference.

                                    RIP, George Washington. You deserved better.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by horsepowerco View Post
                                      I have seen far more grotesque acts of poor choises for a horses training, and career in the sporthorse world...Hunter forced to pack kids around jump courses, loaded with bute and banemine! Dressage horses who were too sore to finish a lesson on a Thursday compete at Prix St geo on a Sat. If you think this sort of thing doesnt happen an ALL FORMS OF EQUINE SPORT...think again!

                                      Im sorry...surely I have ruffled a few feather in my comments...but I just get sick and tired of people pointing fingers at horse racing...like we are some kind of martyrs. The vet bills for my few racehorses I know for a fact EXCEED those of ALL the showhorses in my barn. Do you think for one minuet any of these SHOWHHORSE owners will spend a dime on x rays and ultrasounds? No!
                                      As the owner of more than a few show horses, i consider that extremely insulting. You want to question the care given to ALL show horses just because you have had bad experiences with some owners? turn it around. think of the bad experiences most show horse owners have had with race horse people. can you judge ALL by the behavior of SOME? hardly. my show horses and my race horses get the same care, regardless.
                                      Different Times Equestrian Ventures at Hidden Spring Ranch
                                      www.DifferentTimesEquestrianVentures.com

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                                      • #20
                                        the shame of racing

                                        Horse racing sadly is - quite simply and precisely put - the legal abuse of equines.
                                        My grandfather raised TBs for the track, on his farm in NE.
                                        It amazed me how few of any of his or his friends' (well bred, well raised) horses ever made it to the track, let alone to their first race - and then how many of them broke down.
                                        To what end?
                                        As Pythagoras, a brilliant Greek mind, once said -
                                        “As long as man continues to be the ruthless destroyer of lower livings beings, he will never know health or peace. For as long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seed of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love.”

                                        Racing - in the end, beyond the glitz and glamor and money that really only surrounds a very, very small percentage of racing in total - is a 'ruthless destroyer'.
                                        It is time for us Humans to get the big picture.

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