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War Emblem Bred 0 (ZERO) Mares This Year

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  • War Emblem Bred 0 (ZERO) Mares This Year

    Hopefully he will come back to the US however with the Japanese having spent $17M for him, they probably want to get some of that which I doubt will happen.

    I think he only sired 34 horses, a few have one - the farm hopes to breed off one of them.

  • #2
    do you mean they never bred him, or that none have caught?

    I'm curious, because well, we all know Ferdinands story


    • #3
      Only two emotions belong in the saddle: One is a sense of humor. The other is patience.


      • #4
        Let's bring him back and let him run again!

        (I'm kidding, I'm kidding...)

        Anyone have the link to that "Brokeback War Emblem" youtube video? Ah wait, here it is:
        Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO


        • #5
          I chuckled when I saw this $17 million and NOTHING
          "The horse you get off f is not the same horse you got on. It is your job as a rider to ensure that as often as possible, the change is for the better" - unknown author


          • Original Poster

            Sure beats $16M.......................


            • #7
              Originally posted by wildrose ryder View Post
              do you mean they never bred him, or that none have caught?

              I'm curious, because well, we all know Ferdinands story
              Ferdinand was never at Shadai.

              I'm sure War Emblem will be just fine.


              • #8
                How nice it would be to have War Emblem come home. I guess the horselover in me would love to see him have a nice home and just be a horse with someone to love him. I know the racing/breeding game is ALL about the money, but it sure seems that he has NO interest in breeding. I guess I can dream....


                • #9
                  Maybe he simply HATES Japan, and is depressed. I hope a farm here brings him back and lets him be free on grass again not stuck in a stall.
                  "As a rule we disbelieve all the facts and theories for which we have no use."- William James

                  Proud member of the Wheat Loss Clique.


                  • #10
                    Maybe he's shy...or gay


                    • #11
                      FWIW--War Emblem at Shadai



                      • #12
                        Hopefully they will sell him to a farm in the US (actually the insurance company owns part of him as they made a fertility claim) who will try to pasture breed him. Just turn him out with his own mares and see if nature will take its course over a couple of years. If it doesn't then he could go to Old Friends.
                        Every mighty oak was once a nut that stood its ground.

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                        • #13
                          The War Emblem story is almost as good as The Green Monkey story.


                          • #14
                            Agree with those who say they hope someone brings him home...and yes, I'd try pasture breeding.


                            • #15
                              There is a nice picture of him running in his snowy paddock.

                              BloodHorse 2-14-08 "War Emblem Showing Promise"

                              With the dual American classic winner notching his first Japanese group stakes winner Feb. 11 and his limited number of progeny performing well enough to place him among the leading third-crop sires, Shadai officials will persevere with the temperamental stallion this year.

                              “We want to try to get him to serve mares this year,” Shadai spokesman Eisuke Tokutake said Feb. 13. “My understanding is that we are going to keep trying, at least for this season.

                              "War Emblem is proving himself to be a very good sire for his progeny results. We all wish he would improve as a stallion. That would make everyone happy and probably make him happy, too.”

                              Although offers for the horse have been received from international interests, Shadai has opted to hold on to War Emblem, a $17 million acquisition, in hopes that he eventually will perform in the breeding shed. A variety of tactics has been tried to stimulate his interest, with more planned this year.

                              “It is early in the season so we haven’t started much yet, but we are considering moving him to somewhere else in our group of properties, and we are considering some other options,” Tokutake said without revealing details. “It’s a very important issue and those things are discussed only among the owners and the veterinarians.”

                              War Emblem refused to cover any mares in 2007. During the previous breeding season, he was bred to one mare successfully, but she did not become pregnant.

                              Shadai has previously tried moving War Emblem from its main stud farm on the island of Hokkaido to a nearby location in hopes a change of scene would alter his attitude. Other attempts to coax him into breeding have included allowing him to choose from several in-season mares presented to him simultaneously.

                              Specialists from the United States and Britain, including a chiropractor, have been brought in to examine and work with War Emblem, although not in recent months. Other than his lack of desire to breed, he is “100% healthy,” another Shadai spokesperson said, adding, “He looks well and is enjoying the Japanese winter and a lot of snow in his paddock.”

                              While Japanese bloodstock records show that War Emblem has been able to sire only 43 sons and daughters since he began his stud career in 2003, he already has six stakes runners to his credit.
                              When available, the stallion’s offspring have been well accepted by the commercial market in Japan. Of the 10 foals that have been sold at the elite Japan Racing Horse Association select sale, with eight in 2005 and two in ’06, average price has been 44.9 million yen, or $397,981. Three yearlings sold, with two in 2006 and one in ’07, have averaged 59,666,667 yen, or $514,170.


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by summerhorse View Post
                                Hopefully they will sell him to a farm in the US (actually the insurance company owns part of him as they made a fertility claim) who will try to pasture breed him. Just turn him out with his own mares and see if nature will take its course over a couple of years. If it doesn't then he could go to Old Friends.
                                That is exactly what I'm wishing for too.


                                • #17
                                  Perhaps WE is a born-again and doesn't believe in sex outside of marriage.


                                  • #18
                                    I know that Michael Blowen is negotiating with the Shadai folks for WE. He's also raising money to pay the costs of transport, etc. and he has a set of WE's shoes, compliments of Shadai, to help with that effort.


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by grits View Post
                                      I know that Michael Blowen is negotiating with the Shadai folks for WE. He's also raising money to pay the costs of transport, etc. and he has a set of WE's shoes, compliments of Shadai, to help with that effort.
                                      I like what Michael is doing with Old Friends and I've supported their mission, but I think that it's a waste of resources chasing after War Emblem. There are certainly other horses here in the States that are former champions at risk.

                                      Why spend tens of thousands of dollars (if not much more with gift-in-kind services) trying to get a horse that is basically pampered in Japan? The same is true with Alysheba in Saudi Arabia.


                                      • #20

                                        I agree with you Glimmerglass, why indeed. They obviously like what little he does produce and are willing to try with him. He is well taken care of and valued. The same cannot be said for a number of non performing stallions here.
                                        "We, too, will be remembered not for victories or defeats in battle or in politics, but for our contribution to the human spirit." JFK