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Zenyatta will run 2010; $5M Apple Blossom BACK ON but pushed out (p6)

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  • Zenyatta will run 2010; $5M Apple Blossom BACK ON but pushed out (p6)

    Her not-being-retired announcement came straight from Jerry Moss today on HRTV at Santa Anita. Kinda not that much of a shock as per say as those recent works were never an easing out of racing program. And John/Jerry/Ann did suggest in late October that a couple of races in 2010 were possible ....

    Also: DRF reporting as well 1-16-210

    Owners Jerry and Ann Moss told Daily Racing Form on Saturday that the undefeated 6-year-old mare will campaign this season.

    "We're going to run her," Jerry Moss said Saturday at Santa Anita.

    It was widely believed that the Breeders' Cup Classic was going to be her final start, and Moss thought so, too.

    "I got very emotional after she won the Breeders' Cup and thought what better way to retire," Moss said.

    Zenyatta, however, bounced out of the Breeders' Cup in top shape and has posted three half-mile workouts at her Hollywood Park base recently.

    Jerry and Ann Moss visited Zenyatta on Saturday morning.

    "Seeing her today, she's so radiant," Ann Moss said.

    The Mosses asked trainer John Sherriffs for his input, and he was fully supportive of running the mare in 2010.

    A comeback race for Zenyatta has yet to be determined as the Mosses statement on Saturday was the first official indication that she would continue racing.

    It will be up to the trainer to decide when and where she returns, Jerry Moss said.
    Last edited by Glimmerglass; Feb. 11, 2010, 04:42 PM.

  • #2
    Wow! Maybe I'm the only one shocked, but I am!

    ETA, I guess they don't need to give her HOY now under the argument that Rachel will be running next year and Z wouldn't...
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Glimmerglass View Post
      Her not-being-retired announcement came straight from Jerry Moss today on HRTV at Santa Anita. Kinda not that much of a shock as per say as those recent works were never an easing out of racing program. And John/Jerry/Ann did suggest in late October that a couple of races in 2010 were possible ....

      Also: DRF reporting as well 1-16-210
      doesnt surprise me after her workout not very long ago. i dont understand why they insist on lying to people. either shes retiring or shes not...make up your mind.

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      • #4
        I was going to put this on the big Zenyatta thread but saw this one had been started.

        This is quite interesting!
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        • #5
          "The Mosses asked trainer John Sherriffs for his input, and he was fully supportive of running the mare in 2010."

          Indeed!

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          • #6
            I knew it!! It just was completely bizzare for her to not be under lights in KY and instead working in 48!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by farmgirl88 View Post
              i dont understand why they insist on lying to people. either shes retiring or shes not...make up your mind.
              That's a little harsh. I don't think they were lying to anyone. Moss said himself he wanted to go out on a good note. She won the BC and was undefeated. Maybe they figured why risk the perfect record. Now, she's working well and looks great, so they want to give her another shot. IMO, they don't owe you or anyone else anything. Their horse, their decision, and if they want to waffle, they're entitled.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Las Olas View Post
                That's a little harsh. I don't think they were lying to anyone. Moss said himself he wanted to go out on a good note. She won the BC and was undefeated. Maybe they figured why risk the perfect record. Now, she's working well and looks great, so they want to give her another shot. IMO, they don't owe you or anyone else anything. Their horse, their decision, and if they want to waffle, they're entitled.
                the horsw worked in 48 the other day and has been in obvious work, do you really think the mare was being retired. i certaintly never believed any of the "she's retiring news"......

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by farmgirl88 View Post
                  the horsw worked in 48 the other day and has been in obvious work, do you really think the mare was being retired. i certaintly never believed any of the "she's retiring news"......
                  Actually, it happens more often than you think. I guess it never occured to you that maybe they needed to watch her work a few times in order to make their decision? You obviously have never owned a race mare.

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                  • #10
                    *Completely undignified happy dance*

                    YAY!

                    Give me a break about 'lying to people'- I'm sure there was a hell of an internal debate about what to do after such a spectacular year end performance. With a perfect record and a race like that to crown your cap, conventional wisdom screams to send her to the shed... deciding to go against the flow tends to take a bit of soul searching time.

                    I AM a little surprised they announced it before the Eclipse awards, although it's too late for this to affect the outcome.

                    It's a little late for her to be aiming towards Dubai though, right? .... right???

                    So- shall we start the countdown to the RA vs. Z 2010 BCC?
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                    • #11
                      Holy sheepsh!t!!! I never seriously thought they'd bring her back. This is one of those times when it's good to be wrong.

                      Now all I want to see is Zenyatta, RA, dirt at 1-1/4 against the boys. And pray everyone comes home safe.
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                      • #12
                        I'm torn--part of me thinks she's earned her retirement, but part of me thinks she's happy and healthy doing what she's doing. I of course would love to see her go on.
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                          Originally posted by Rubyfree View Post
                          It's a little late for her to be aiming towards Dubai though, right? .... right?
                          I think she could still go there and it almost seems logical for a next step for something to tackle and add to the resume.

                          I mean would you really keep her running (vs. breeding) so that she can win the Apple Blossom Handicap at Oaklawn? With Dubai's surface being synthetic for the first time this year it almost begs for her to try it.

                          Just my view but I don't see Jess Jackson making Rachel's return after a layoff being a field including Zenyatta.

                          As for "lying" no I wouldn't characterize the Moss family as doing that at all. I think they've wanted their options 'open' but strongly were leaning towards the BCC being the final start and the career ending in 2009. However with time they've seen that fans and the press are begging for a race against Rachel Alexandra and have wondered if Z's can add to her unbeaten streak.

                          Frankly breeding is overrated IMHO and it shouldn't dictate the sport of racing. She can wait another year and its good for the sport, good for fans and is just as good for the business of racing (if not more) then having her mated ever will.

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                          • #14
                            I was duped, but I wasn't paying a lot of attention.

                            If she wants to run, well, let 'er rip. We could use a hero about now.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by farmgirl88 View Post
                              the horsw worked in 48 the other day and has been in obvious work, do you really think the mare was being retired. i certaintly never believed any of the "she's retiring news"......
                              ORRRR maybe they decided that the mare seems so happy and healthy doing her job, that they wanted to keep her happy instead of kicking her out to pasture to have babies.
                              I HIGHLY doubt anyone was "lying" intentionally.

                              I am another doing a happy dance! I very much look forward to watching her run again As long as she's happy and healthy, why not? God Forbid a US-bred racehorse stays sound, happy, and healthy as a racehorse beyond their adolescent years.
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                              • #16
                                Well said, Glimmer.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Glimmerglass View Post
                                  I think she could still go there and it almost seems logical for a next step for something to tackle and add to the resume.

                                  I mean would you really keep her running (vs. breeding) so that she can win the Apple Blossom Handicap at Oaklawn? With Dubai's surface being synthetic for the first time this year it almost begs for her to try it.

                                  (snip)

                                  Frankly breeding is overrated IMHO and it shouldn't dictate the sport of racing. She can wait another year and its good for the sport, good for fans and is just as good for the business of racing (if not more) then having her mated ever will.
                                  It's a natural progression for most US based Classic winners, and I should think she has more reason to go than many have- who is there for her to beat? Vodka would be a serious contender, but i've not seen conformation that she's going.

                                  That said, it's a considerably more ambitious move than her connections have been willing to take thus far- but I also can't see what reason they would have to keep her in training if they don't intend to go out and barnstorm, now that she has emphatically demonstrated her class against the boys. This is one time where I sincerely hope pipe dreams and fantasies get ahold of the connections and drive them on. She's earned a retirement, certainly, but if she's going to keep racing she's earned the right to be put up against the best of the best, no holds barred. Stamp her name into the history books and gild it, as it were, as opposed to just the stamp.

                                  My vote is still with RA for HOTY, but I am now more hopeful that the Mosses will get their OOTY Eclipse. This is a very game, hopeful and positive decision for the sport.

                                  2010 is shaping up to be a hell of a racing year.
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Calena View Post

                                    Now all I want to see is Zenyatta, RA, dirt at 1-1/4 against the boys.
                                    That would be a race I'd want to go see!
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                                    • #19
                                      The Mosses for owner of the year! Heck, Jackson and the Mosses for owners of the decade!!! They have done this sport a great favor over the last few years.

                                      Unfortunately, I'm sure the voting ballots have been sent in, so the Mosses decision to bring Z back won't have any bearing on the outcome of OOTY.

                                      I'm almost positive that Rach will be HOTY, but Z now has her chance to shine.

                                      I am ecstatic that she is coming back.

                                      Zenyatta most likely won't be sent to Dubai even though she could still conceivably make the race.

                                      The most logical spot for big Z and Rach to meet up would be the BC Classic at Churchill. If this is the case, I expect that both will have light campaigns because both will have to bring their A+ games if they want to beat the other. Zenyatta has a chance to take down Cigar's record now. Go Z!

                                      This is GREAT for racing! I wish both Rach and Z a happy and healthy year! Let's get this ball rolling for the best matchup ever in the history of the sport. Fingers crossed.

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Calena View Post
                                        Now all I want to see is Zenyatta, RA, dirt at 1-1/4 against the boys. And pray everyone comes home safe.
                                        I shudder to think of a match race (shades of Ruffian). Ditto on the prayers.
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