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The next "Super-Stud"; who will it be?

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  • The next "Super-Stud"; who will it be?

    In the past it's been Northern Dancer, Danzig, Mr. Prospector, Storm Cat. . .all were marquee names at the select sales, and when a top stakes mare retired it seemed a sure bet that one of these horses would be at least considered as a prospective mate (unless the mare was a daughter/granddaughter of, or closely related to). For example, I was sure when Darley purchased Ashado that she'd be going to Storm Cat (and I was right).

    Just for fun, who might be the next in line to assume the mantle? Or are these days over with?
    Last edited by Mara; Nov. 29, 2009, 08:44 PM.

  • #2
    Medaglia d'Oro, Street Cry, Tiznow...

    A.P. Indy and Dynaformer are still chugging along, too. For how much longer, I don't know.

    I'm hoping Bernardini's foals end up being nice runners.

    I'm pretty sure there will always be top stallions, no?
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      #3
      Top stallions, yes, of course. You generally see the same names in the top 20 or so on the year-end rankings.
      I'm talking about the ones who end up with legendary status (or close to).

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        I'm curious to see if Birdstone continues to have the success he had this year...
        -Jessica

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        • #5
          My guess is Medaglia D'Oro.
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          • #6
            Medaglia D'Oro & Street Cry are looking good for that status right now- we'll have to see some of their boys hit the shed to get a better idea though.

            Candy Ride was looking hot for a while there but it seems like his runners peter out of top form quicker than some.... maybe that's just my perception.

            I would LOVE to see Hard Spun get the glory in the shed that he seemed to always be thisclose to having on the track. I love him.
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            • #7
              Giants Causeway seems like a heck of a sire and pretty big name fellow
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              • #8
                I love Tapit

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                  One I've never felt has been given his due is Smart Strike, except for the Curlin years. He's been one solid sire, IMO.

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                    Originally posted by Mara View Post
                    One I've never felt has been given his due is Smart Strike, except for the Curlin years. He's been one solid sire, IMO.
                    AP Indy, Distorted Humor, Smart Strike.


                    As for younger unproven sires, it's hard to tell. Medaglia d'Oro needs to sire a top class colt before he will be considered "elite" though he got better mares after his first foals hit the ground and were very good looking.
                    Tapit also needs a top colt. His fillies have carried the day for him for two years now.
                    Tiznow, by merit of his own modest breeding may always be the victim of some prejudice, though WinStar has supported him and had great success.
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                    • #11
                      I have no business commenting on this thread but I LOVE this horse

                      http://www.lanesend.com/stallions/st...rock_hard_ten/
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                        Originally posted by Meredith Clark View Post
                        I have no business commenting on this thread but I LOVE this horse

                        http://www.lanesend.com/stallions/st...rock_hard_ten/

                        Rocky is one gorgeous dude, but he's got his sire's history against him. Kris S.'s kids haven't done so well in the shed.

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                        • #13
                          Kris S. has sired some nice broodmares though. The farm I work at has two LOVELY Kris S. mares who both throw LOVELY foals (big, good bone, good looking) Though the one mares oldest is a 2 yr old of this yr who hasn't broke his maiden yet, though he's close! The other mares first foal is a yearling, so it is hard to tell if either mares will throw winners on the track... but boy as a hunter rider, I'd kill to have ANY of the offspring out of these two mares.... they're just lovely!

                          But I'm still learning about TB pedigrees, so my words don't count as much! ;-)
                          Last edited by KentuckyTBs; Nov. 30, 2009, 01:57 PM. Reason: clarify

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                          • #14
                            Rock Hard Ten got another stakes winner this weekend. Hopefully he keeps it up!

                            Drvmb1ggl3, I was thinking of Galileo. It's amazing to me what Urban Sea has done. Not only is she producing amazing racehorses, but she's producing producers, too. I hope Sea The Stars does well.
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                            • #15
                              I agree about Hard Spun. With Danzig you get the speed/miler, but he also has stamina lines through his dam, a Turkoman mare. And if he can pass that big heart along, look out!

                              A few more that have had some success early on,
                              Speightstown
                              Kitten's Joy
                              Tapit

                              Any of them could have that big breakout colt/filly in the next couple years.

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                              • #16
                                Redoute's Choice (highes stud fee in australia) and More then Ready are fairly popular in australia. I know we have 5-7 mares being bred to Bernadini this coming year.

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                                • #17
                                  Is Cape Cross still alive? I love the Ahonoora in his pedigree.

                                  I think Monsun is already at super status.
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by vineyridge View Post
                                    Is Cape Cross still alive? I love the Ahonoora in his pedigree.

                                    I think Monsun is already at super status.
                                    I love Monsun. We'd do well (several pedigree experts are in agreement on this point) to start getting some of that blood into the US stock.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by keepthelegend
                                      I love Tapit
                                      Me too.
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                                      • #20
                                        I too would like to see some new blood in the US stock, that is why I am a fan of Leroidesanumaux and can't wait to see what Invasor does.....
                                        Mai Tai aka Tyler RIP March 1994-December 2011
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