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  • Sea the Stars... news, replays, discussion thread... RETIRED

    If there's a better horse in the world, I'd like to know who it is.
    Just annexed his fifth G1 in a row....
    2000 Guineas
    Irish Champion Stakes.

    This is a magnificent animal, the likes we haven't seen in a long time.
    Here's a collection of his highlights... doesn't include today's win in the Irish Champion Stakes, where he made the best of Ballydoyle look very ordinary, but I imagine that will be on youtube tout suite.
    Last edited by Drvmb1ggl3; Oct. 13, 2009, 08:44 AM.

  • #2
    Pretty awesome...
    "No, not anything goes, I said no rules!"


    • Original Poster

      The quality of the video isn't great, but here's a replay of his win in the Irish Champion Stakes today at Leopardstown.

      Next stop Longchamp on the first Sun in Oct for the Arc.


      • #4
        Thanks for that.

        Looking forward to the Arc.


        • #5
          He is an awesome horse, and a lovely victory for him! Here's looking to the Arc!
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          • Original Poster

            Here's a better quality video replay.


            • #7
              Hello there, I've got the Irish Champion Stakes video on my site now - the only place anywhere that has it ... go to www.preconderotous.blogspot.com where you'll find many UK and European races posted. Regards, So Cruise


              • #8
                OK see you've already got it!

                re: Sea The Stars Irish Champion Stakes today


                • #9
                  Highly unlikely Sea The Stars will go for the Arc

                  Originally posted by Drvmb1ggl3 View Post
                  The quality of the video isn't great, but here's a replay of his win in the Irish Champion Stakes today at Leopardstown.

                  Next stop Longchamp on the first Sun in Oct for the Arc.
                  Ground at Longchamp in early October will be soft more likely or not and connections will not let him run on anything worse than yielding (today at Leopardstown was a borderline decision) so DON'T back it ante-post.


                  • Original Poster

                    I think the whole Longchamp in Oct being soft thing is a bit of an urban myth (forgive the pun!!). If you look at the last ten runnings, there have only been three times that the race has come up with a rating that would not suit STS. John Oxx has already said he'd run on ground that had "Good" in the description.

                    2008 - Good-Sft
                    2007 - Good-Sft
                    2006 - Good
                    2005 - Good-Sft
                    2004 - Good
                    2003 - Holding
                    2002 - Good
                    2001 - Holding
                    2000 - Good
                    1999 - Heavy


                    • Original Poster

                      Timeform have just given Sea the Stars a 140 Timeform rating for his performance in the Irish Champion stakes on Sat!!! Holy gamolie, that puts him in some rarefied air.

                      Sea The Stars has joined the list of all-time greats after his stunning Irish Champion Stakes win at Leopardstown, according to world-renowned ratings organisation Timeform - and there is the mouth-watering prospect of better to come.

                      Timeform have provisionally given John Oxx's colt a huge rating of 140, which puts him alongside Shergar, Dancing Brave and Dubai Millennium as the third best horse since 1970.

                      Only Brigadier Gerard (144) and Mill Reef (141) have been allotted bigger ratings by Timeform since 1970.

                      Timeform's Flat Editor Jamie Lynch commented: "Mastercraftsman (130) appears to have run his race in third, and there is also good reason for believing that Fame And Glory deserves a rating of 135, and to be bracketed in the same league as Sinndar (134), Galileo (134) and St Jovite (135).

                      "Therefore the form of the race looks solid, and we have given Sea The Stars a provisional rating of 140.

                      "Furthermore, Sea The Stars again didn't look all out, leaving the impression there could be an even better performance in him if ever comes up against something able to test him fully.

                      "He should now be classed as one of the all-time greats."

                      Timeform Ratings Since 1970

                      Brigadier Gerard 144
                      Mill Reef 141
                      Sea The Stars 140
                      Dubai Millennium 140
                      Dancing Brave 140
                      Shergar 140


                      • Original Poster

                        Here's some post race footage and analysis of the Irish Champion.
                        What a lovely looking animal he is, very refined and regal, almost a throwback. Race didn't seem to take much out of him.


                        • #13
                          Yeah, he does have a great action about him and looks very classy in a finish. Hope he gets to take his chance in the Arc. Shame I won't be there to see it this year! Ah well!
                          One Man (1988 - 1998) - 1996 King George VI Chase (January,Sandown), 1996 King George VI Chase (December, Kempton), 1998 Queen Mother Champion Chase.


                          • #14
                            Amazing! What a great horse.
                            CRAYOLA Posse: PLUM


                            • Original Poster

                              John Oxx talks about the fairytale it's been training STS in an article in the RP.

                              Oxx compared the Tsui family's superstar to Bolt, the record-breaking sprinter, and reporters from both national television stations, RTE and TV3, were there to hear it, along with colleagues from radio stations.

                              Ireland's latest equine star was paraded before them, and Oxx said: "We'll have a rider sit up on him tomorrow. He will canter again on Wednesday, so they don't get too much time to rest after these big races. You wouldn't be surprised if he got a nick or two but, thankfully, he has none."

                              With Sea The Stars now embedded in the national consciousness, Oxx said: "He's the Usain Bolt of the equine world. To have a horse that has captured the wider audience is something else, and it's great to have a horse that has excited people so much.

                              "Even talking to his owner [Christopher Tsui] after the Eclipse, he said to me this horse now belongs to the public.

                              "It's been a great fairytale."
                              Oxx is in the running for Irish sports personality of the year. Though I think STS might win the award ahead of his trainer!

                              Looking towards the Breeders' Cup Classic, Oxx said: "My instinct is it's late in the year and is probably a big ask."

                              Before then there could an addition to the trophy cabinet, in the shape of the RTE Sports Personality of the Year award. Oxx was cut to 7-2 second favourite on Monday by William Hill, having been 10-1 before the Arc.


                              • Original Poster

                                Collection of the replays of his races this years

                                2000 Guineas, G1, 8f, 3yo, Newmarket

                                Derby, G1, 12f, 3yo, Epsom

                                Eclipse Stakes, G1, 10f, 3yo+ WFA, Sandown

                                Juddmonte Intl, G1, 10.5f, 3yo+ WFA, York

                                Irish Champion Stakes, G1, 10f, 3yo+ WFA, Leopardstown

                                Prix de l'Arc, G1, 12f, 3yo+ WFA, Longchamp


                                • #17
                                  So just curious what purchase price would likely be pegged on Sea The Stars?

                                  Would Sheikh Mohammed offer Christopher Tsui and his family a dollar amount (US$) at or near $100 million as The Times says he'd be worth?


                                  • #18
                                    A nice opinion piece in the Independent: "If only sport's two-legged competitors would take a lesson from Sea The Stars"


                                    • #19
                                      Sh Mo has been making overtures all year long and Tsui has rebuffed them all. This horse is simply amazing and I expect that he will retire and stand at stud at 4. No stud plans have beenannounced but rumor is that the Irish national Stud is a leading contender to stand Sea the Stars. His dam, the great Urban Sea lived there until her death earlier this year.

                                      Does anyone know if STS is the only Arc winner produced by (not sired by) and Arc winner?
                                      F O.B
                                      Resident racing historian ~~~ Re-riders Clique
                                      Founder of the Mighty Thoroughbred Clique


                                      • #20
                                        Thanks for posting the links. Obviously I have heard of Sea the Stars, but I hadn't seen him run. Breathtaking! Now that, is a race horse.

                                        I am stunned by him.