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Rachel Alexandra serious after surgery

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  • #21
    Will the JC accept C-Section births? Do C-Sections work in horses? If that's an option, she could, should she survive, have one or two more foals.
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    • #22
      Originally posted by Roxyllsk View Post
      I hope she recovers and they give her a year off to recover at least. I believe her colt last year was rather large too.
      I would guess that post-surgery they would not have much of a choice in this regard.
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      • #23
        Originally posted by vineyridge View Post
        Will the JC accept C-Section births? Do C-Sections work in horses? If that's an option, she could, should she survive, have one or two more foals.
        yes, they do C-sections for horses and the Jockey Club has no issues with it.

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        • #24
          ...Breed her to smaller stallions? There are plenty of short ones.

          Or wait a season and see if her first colt turns out to be anything anyway. Just because she's good doesn't mean her offspring will be worth it, though what you'd do with a non-breeding mare in most cases...at least she'd be a tourist attraction. Genuine Risk was a great race mare and never dropped anything great, so no reason to risk RA if her first two are that hard on her and turn out to be nothings.
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          • #25
            Originally posted by danceronice View Post
            ...Breed her to smaller stallions? There are plenty of short ones.

            Or wait a season and see if her first colt turns out to be anything anyway. Just because she's good doesn't mean her offspring will be worth it, though what you'd do with a non-breeding mare in most cases...at least she'd be a tourist attraction. Genuine Risk was a great race mare and never dropped anything great, so no reason to risk RA if her first two are that hard on her and turn out to be nothings.
            She has passed on her genetic material at the very least. Both offspring are by nice stallions with good records. There would be no harm at all in seeing how they grow up testing them a bit on a training track and keeping them as breeding animals. Given their mothers performances.

            In the mean time they have the rest of her life to figure out what is causing her these factors post foaling. RA is only 7
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            • #26
              How big is RA herself? I seem to remember her from racing as being a bit greyhoundy, the lean and lanky type. Maybe they should stick with smaller stallions or ones proven not to add size to the mare. Of course, any time I saw her on TV, she was up against colts, who could be expected to have more bulk along with their testosterone, so she may have just looked a little slight in comparison.

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              • #27
                A C Section is akin to colic surgery. No way you would knowingly want your horse to have colic surgery every year. She is done for the year for sure and probably for good.
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                • #28
                  Originally posted by vineyridge View Post
                  Will the JC accept C-Section births? Do C-Sections work in horses? If that's an option, she could, should she survive, have one or two more foals.
                  C-sections are no small matter in horses. I have seen my fair share of them and I'd rather deal with a post-op colic that a post-op c-section.

                  They can heal up just fine and go on to reproduce.
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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by vineyridge View Post
                    Do C-Sections work in horses?
                    One problem is that the foal survival rate is low (along with the potential complications to the mare, like others have stated). It's not like in people where you can do an "elective" C-section and have a live, healthy baby. In mares, elective induction/C-section has dismal survival.

                    Hope she pulls through this.....she's in great hands.
                    :-(

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                    • #30
                      Just saw this update: http://www.kentucky.com/2013/02/14/2...nding-but.html
                      Jingling for all involved!

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                      • #31
                        I'm at work so can't see anything on HRTV. If indeed there is a noon update, please someone post here. I'm jingling wildly. Don't want my coworkers to see me crying.

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                        • #32
                          I just hope that she will recover and that love for the mare will prevail and greed will not win. I hope she is never bred again!

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                          • #33
                            Originally posted by FalseImpression View Post
                            I just hope that she will recover and that love for the mare will prevail and greed will not win. I hope she is never bred again!
                            My thoughts exactly!
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                            • #34
                              Originally posted by foundationmare View Post
                              I'm at work so can't see anything on HRTV. If indeed there is a noon update, please someone post here. I'm jingling wildly. Don't want my coworkers to see me crying.
                              Twitter is your friend... Here ya go:
                              http://www.hrtv.com/videos/breaking-...colon-surgery/

                              And BTW I feel ya, I've been sniffly all day at work too. Jingles for that poor good mare and her baby. I get WHY they have to separate them but it's just so unbearably sad.
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                              • #35
                                Originally posted by danceronice View Post
                                Genuine Risk was a great race mare and never dropped anything great
                                True for SilverBulletDay as well - along with a host of other great race mares . . .
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                                  #36
                                  From the update (http://www.kentucky.com/2013/02/14/2...nding-but.html)

                                  Rachel's dam, Lotta Kim, also had issues with foaling.
                                  Lotta Kim has only produced two other foals besides Rachel Alexandra, according to Jockey Club reports. An Empire Maker colt born in 2007 was euthanized in 2009 due to wobbler's syndrome and Samantha Nicole, a 2-year-old full sister to Rachel, was purchased by Stonestreet at the Keeneland November sale for $700,000.

                                  Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2013/02/14/2...#storylink=cpy
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                                  • #37
                                    Rood and Riddle will have a 2:30 EST press conference on condition of Rachel Alexandra.

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                                    • #38
                                      As always you're ahead of us all, Glimmer, I was just coming to post that!!!

                                      Jingling furiously. I so hope it's not bad news. (I'm NEVER going to get any work done!)
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                                        #39
                                        Is there a link??? For the press conference???
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                                        • #40
                                          Originally posted by VirginiaBred View Post
                                          Is there a link??? For the press conference???
                                          I think everyone is at the mercy of those attending tweeting out the results. Unless say Ray Paulick (who also is in Lexington) goes over there with some streaming video.

                                          The DRF has been tweeting info

                                          https://twitter.com/DRFBreeding

                                          Conference will be w/ surgeon Dr. Brett Woodie, attending vet Dr. Bonnie Barr, owner Barbara Banke.

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