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Anyone remember Sly Diamond Jim from Finger Lakes?

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  • Anyone remember Sly Diamond Jim from Finger Lakes?

    Jim started 77 times and won 11 races and was apparently a star at Finger Lakes in his prime... He is now up for adoption by his owner....

    He wasn't doing well at Philly and was given to his current owner out of a field early this year. He made a slight comeback, redeeming himself by hitting the board at Charlestown occasionally showing glimpses of his former talent as a closer. He decided to retire him while he is still sound before the winter. He is now turned out at a farm with a field and a run in shed. He looks really happy but looks like he needs more attention.

    He is tall, dark bay and a good mover. He has a big osselet that didn't bother him during training.

    So, just hoping that someone remembers this character......

  • #2
    Maggi Moss claimed Sly Diamond Jim at Oaklawn park in 2006. She owned him until January 21, 2008 when he was claimed at Philadelphia Park. She owned him for 21 starts during which time he won 8 races - including 6 allowance races in a row at Finger Lakes under trainer Chris Englehart. He only had 6 starts at Finger Lakes and won them all! As the OP said, he made 77 starts through October 2012, and I think about 43 of them were at Philadelphia Park/Parx. He had a number of different owners & trainers along the way.
    Even though Maggi Moss hasn't owned him since 2008, he did have a very successful run with her. Maybe she would be keen on helping with his re-homing.
    Last edited by CharingHounds; Dec. 29, 2012, 10:17 AM. Reason: typo and wrong date


    • #3
      Can you post his sale info? Is it through CANTER listing? Could not find anything in google search...


      • Original Poster

        Originally posted by Justa Bob View Post
        Can you post his sale info? Is it through CANTER listing? Could not find anything in google search...
        He is not listed anywhere yet... He is free to a good home (with a no auction/slaughter contract). I have a pic of him on the track I can text or email. This horse could be a really cool partner for someone...


        • #5
          Would posting his availability on the Eventing Forum help find him a good home (if he might make a sport horse)? CANTER and other OTTB listings are favorites and there are many shoppers there... He sounds amazing! What a great story and horse.


          • #6
            would love to see a pic? how tall?
            Willing to Please - Hero 5/10/87-7/14/09 My Life will never be the same
            Right horse at the right time **Nel**
            My Diamond Girl


            • Original Poster


              Ok hopefully this works..... Here is a pic from this summer.


              • #8
                Originally posted by sjdressage View Post
                Jim started 77 times and won 11 races and was apparently a star at Finger Lakes in his prime... He is now up for adoption by his owner....

                He wasn't doing well at Philly and was given to his current owner out of a field early this year. He made a slight comeback, redeeming himself by hitting the board at Charlestown occasionally showing glimpses of his former talent as a closer. He decided to retire him while he is still sound before the winter. He is now turned out at a farm with a field and a run in shed. He looks really happy but looks like he needs more attention.

                He is tall, dark bay and a good mover. He has a big osselet that didn't bother him during training.

                So, just hoping that someone remembers this character......

                Jim is now staying with me. Trying to get some weight back on him. He is turned out on 5 acres with his buddy, Ashtonofun. I am fortunate to be able to care for such kind horses. Here he is enjoying the sprinkler.
                Last edited by scottk; Feb. 12, 2015, 06:24 AM.
                A Thoroughbred is NOT a disposable item.


                • #9
                  Some more of Jim and Ashton.......

                  A Thoroughbred is NOT a disposable item.


                  • #10
                    Great pics! I love the one of Jim and Ashton playing!


                    • Original Poster

                      Wow! They look wonderful! Thanks for giving them a great life, they deserve it!


                      • #12
                        Thank you for posting updates. I love hearing how horses are doing. Sometimes there is a lot of discussion about a horse, but then we never know the outcome. Really appreciate the pics too!

                        Is he retired or able to be ridden? They both look in great shape.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sjdressage View Post
                          Wow! They look wonderful! Thanks for giving them a great life, they deserve it!
                          They are giving me a great life
                          A Thoroughbred is NOT a disposable item.


                          • #14
                            Thanks for all of the interest.

                            For those of you who are interested, let me tell you how this came to be.

                            About 3 and a half years ago, me and my wife purchased a house on 6 and a half acres. It had a barn out back. Neither of us had ever owned, been around much or had any thing but a passing interest in horses. With the empty barn staring at us from the house we started to discuss the possibility of maybe getting a horse. We wanted to find one that could REALLY use a home.

                            Every year we would watch the Kentucky Derby because of all of the fuss that is made about it. Then we started to think about maybe finding a Thoroughbred. When I started to research the breed online, I was appalled at the bleak future that so many former racers face when their racing careers end.

                            At that point I decided that somewhere out there was a couple of horses that were NOT going to wind up heading to Canada by way of New Holland.

                            I talked to different " horse people" along the way and was warned that "you don't want a Thoroughbred", "what are you crazy, with no experience you'll get yourself killed", "why not a nice Appaloosa?", "they are wild, have bad feet and all are broken with injuries." , and my favorite, "they love to bite".

                            Of course this only made me want to prove the these people wrong. They were contradicting what I was reading online about some Thoroughbreds making great horses and since I never owned a horse at least I couldn't tell a good one from a bad one anyway.

                            We started to fix up the barn and I started to look around. I volunteered at a local horse rescue for 1 day a week for about half of the summer. I told the owner that it was my intent to learn about these horses and then adopt a couple when I learned enough to handle them. When the person that was working with me had to leave I left too as the owner was worried about me being around the horses by myself or so I was told.

                            All along we were continuing to fix up our barn. We regraded the property and installed frost proof hydrants and new fence.
                            As we were getting closer to being able to save a couple of horses I started to contact some different Thoroughbred Rescue organizations.. That was when the next doors got slammed in my face. Basically the response was" You never had a Horse? And you want us to adopt out to you one of ours? Aint gonna happen." Well okay then.. I just spent all of this time and resources installing new fence, rehabbing the barn. Regrading the property. I am willing to hire a trainer to get us through the initial stages. But your right. I'm not in it for the long haul. Thanks for the 5 second evaluation.

                            I then started to scan Craigslist ads. Last April an ad popped up for a Thoroughbred, free to a good home, must sign a no slaughter contract. I called the person and a nice younger guy answered the phone. We talked for awhile and he told me that he owned Tempesta Di Neve, Sly Diamond Jim and Ashtonofun. He said that he used to race them but started to feel sorry for them and retired all 3 at the same time. He kept them at a boarding facility for the first year and then bought a house with some land and put up fencing and moved them there. He was just overwhelmed with caring for them and really wanted to place them in a better situation. I made plans to see them that weekend. When I arrived to meet them, this is what I saw.

                            I brought my wife back the following day and we immediately decided that we would take Ashton first as he was the thinnest. He is the bottom of the pecking order and just wound up getting less food than the other 2. Here is the day he arrived.

                            I was then going back almost daily to help the owner care for the other 2 as he had many other commitments and I wanted to help remove some of the load of caring for the horses from him. After a couple of days my wife thought that Ashton looked lonely and asked if maybe we should get Jim. I said yes since they are herd animals that would probably put Ashton at ease. So I made plans to pick Jim up. Here he is the day of his arrival.

                            But then this was bad because it left Tempe alone in a field. We really didn't want three horses as never owning a horse we thought it would be too overwhelming. So I got to work trying to find a home for him. The first person that wanted him let me visit their farm. Between the 4 horses that were way behind on hoof care and the 3 foot tall manure piles in front of the stalls we said probably won't work. Then the next person actually saddled and rode him. They said that they would like to take him. They assured me that if he went lame that he would never be sent to slaughter. He would be humanely euthanized. I then asked to define lame. I was told that meant no longer able to be used in their riding program. Just for the sake of clarity I asked if that meant if he was pasture sound would he be put down? I was then told and at that point was the first time I heard the term he would be a "lawn ornament", an expensive one and would cost too much to keep around. That is when I told them to get the ****out of here you ignorant **********. After what this horse has been through, that is your answer????

                            So now the reality that we would be owning 3 horses started to sink in LOL.

                            Then the fun began. The first 2 horses were moved on a step up stock trailer. We went after Tempe and he refused to load. 2 hours worth. Tried everything including the strap around the but. Wouldn't budge.
                            Then someone suggested a ramp trailer as this is what race horses use. After 3 weeks of frantic searching I come up with a ramp trailer, Well he wouldn't budge. Did rear up and go over backwards though. Scared the crap out of us and himself. I'm shaking my head as I'm up to my armpits in all of this and have been a proud horse owner for all of 2 months.

                            My wife suggested maybe have another horse on the trailer. Sounded good to me. A friend of mine found a woman with a 4 horse trailer that would bring one of her horses. It is now September by the way. We got there and he hopped right on as soon as he saw the other horse. Have to give my wife credit.

                            Anyway, I have to stop for now as I have to go do a barn check LOL. Tempe goes through a whole bucket of water between 7pm and midnight. Thirsty little bugger he is. Will try to write more later. Will show you some more pics though.

                            By the way so as not to panic here is Ashton now.

                            Jim now

                            And Tempe now

                            I think Jim loves me

                            And for a real pick me up, the boys getting a little playful on this past Sunday...........enjoy
                            Last edited by scottk; Feb. 12, 2015, 06:13 AM.
                            A Thoroughbred is NOT a disposable item.


                            • #15
                              Um, you are the best, ScottK. May all the good karma come back to you.


                              • #16
                                I'm impressed that you learned how to take care of horses at home without having owned a horse before! Proper fencing and feeding and hoof care and vet care.
                                Very good, and thank you for rescuing these three


                                • #17
                                  What an awesome landing for these horses. Way to go OP!
                                  Esmarelda, "Ezzie" 1999 Swedish Warmblood

                                  "The world is best viewed through the ears of a horse."


                                  • #18
                                    The world needs more people like you. Those are pretty nice lawn ornaments. beats the heck out of gnomes any day.
                                    Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans


                                    • #19
                                      Nice job looking after these horses. They look happy and healthy.


                                      • #20
                                        Thanks for all of the kind words. It puts me in a mentally good place to know these guys are safe with me. They were out without even so much as a run in shed last winter
                                        A Thoroughbred is NOT a disposable item.