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  • #41
    A jockey that rode last night actually said the track was riding well... he didn't feel it was a cause in the wreck.

    The jockey who was hospitalized was released.

    Godspeed, Sharp Beauty, quick healing to all who were injured and deep gratitude that it wasn't as bad as it could have been....
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    • #42
      On a slightly different subject, but still the same...

      the filly who finished probably wouldn't have any trouble finding herself recycled into a new career, if the need ever arose. She sure seemed to keep her head and stay chill when the jockey eased her up and loose horses raced past her.

      There are aspects of racing I don't like...but there are aspects of other disciplines I don't like as well. At the end of the day, the horses have to be cared for to make money..

      AND.. success - be it monetary or not - does not come without some measure of risk. The horses can be well cared for, and even loved, but the crux of it is they are inventory - a tool - the pathway by which success is attained. This means they are subject to that risk. It's a business, not a petting zoo. We have to accept the risks that come with that business. Any decent connection (owner/trainer/jockey/etc) will do their utmost to minimize risk and this is to be respected. And, in fact, success depends on the minimization of risk.. the more loss, the less success, and all. Cause and effect.

      Just like in upper level eventing, any conscientious rider will do their best to not overface the horse and thereby minimize the risk of rotational falls. Still doesn't mean horses (and riders) don't die in the pursuit of "success". It's a risk.

      Weigh the risks. And the consequences. Use the tool wisely, fairly, and hope for the best.

      And nevermind all that. If there was no horse racing industry, there would be no OTTB's. If there were no OTTB's, my life would be a whole heck of a lot bleaker.

      So yeah. If not for racing...

      Sure hope the rest of the horses come back just fine from that spill. I'm willing to pile it in the basket labelled "Manure happens." Sucks, and maybe there was something that could have been done to prevent it - but the onus then is not to castigate it for having happened, but make the necessary changes to minimize the chance of re-occurence. Something I'm sure has been thought of by those in charge.
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      • #43
        Originally posted by Flashy Gray VA View Post
        Your comments are really appreciated, LAB.

        For the life of me I don't understand what it is that drives people to comment how much they hate racing ... on a racing forum.

        FWIW I've visited CT regularly since the mid-80s and back then it was a serious dump, the absolute bottom of the barrel on every front - horses, trainers, purses, infrastructure/facilities.

        It's come a long way since then and while it's never going to be top tier I'm sorry to hear so many who've worked horses there in the last 5 - 10 years express concerns about the track itself when it's sloppy.

        ETA: wishing for a full and speedy recovery for both people and horses injured in what sounds like a really horrific accident.
        I will also eagerly jump in to defend racing and the majority of owners/trainers. Every discipline has their undesirables, but the vast majority of owners and trainers I know are among the best, MOST caring, MOST attentive horsemen and horsewomen I know. I can say without question that I would send my homebred, hand raised, horse of a lifetime to Laurierace any day. And I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't want to come home again.
        "Absent a correct diagnosis, medicine is poison, surgery is trauma and alternative therapy is witchcraft" A. Kent Allen
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        • #44
          Aww, I'm blushing! Right back at ya Morgen, I did offer you Allie and Jess. Anyway, yes racing is a business and aside from just the humane aspect of good horse care there is the business aspect as well. As a rule, skinny, sore, sick etc horses don't run as well as horses that aren't skinny or sore or sick. They can only give you what they have in them and it's up to the caretaker to make sure it's in there. If I ate a millionth as healthy and balanced diet as my horses do I would probably live to be 200. I have been at nice tracks and I have been at the bottom of the barrel tracks and I would say the level of horse care is way above the care at your average boarding facility at all of the tracks I have seen.
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          • #45
            I would say the level of horse care is way above the care at your average boarding facility at all of the tracks I have seen.
            Agreed 150%.

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            • #46
              Great back story on surviving mare

              This is the little mare who stayed on her feet during the spill.

              http://pastthegrandstand.blogspot.co...iss-fifty.html
              Snowflakes become an avalanche.

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              • #47
                No one from CT will ever come on here and say a word, they are told in no uncertain terms by Front Management open your mouth loose you stalls....Track was sealed..rolled to keep water from washing surface away...but racing should have been cancelled due to Way To Much water...they then did not unseal track or fluff it/harrow the next day after AM excersize to allow the track a chance to dry out...they have kept is sealed and all that water is sealed underneath, if it perks thru a weak spot you get what is termed a "hole" and thats when you have a real problem...Laurie did I get it right???

                Yes one horse was limping and had an abvious stifle injury..and people it could have been so way WORSE...

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Stellaspeed View Post
                  This is the little mare who stayed on her feet during the spill.

                  http://pastthegrandstand.blogspot.co...iss-fifty.html

                  Thanks for sharing that amazing blog of Miss Fifty - including the new post from the CT race tragedy. That mare has quite a story (and some angels on her shoulders)!! It is a really hard race to watch.

                  Jingles to those who are still recovering (equine and human). And condolences for the horse lost.

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                  • #49
                    Stellaspeed, what a fabulous story about Miss Fifty.

                    I did watch the replay on BH and was really impressed by how that filly kept her wits about her with all the pandemonium.

                    they have kept is sealed and all that water is sealed underneath, if it perks thru a weak spot you get what is termed a "hole" and thats when you have a real problem
                    This is a really clear explanation, thanks JBR ...

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                    • #50
                      Basically a sealed track is a packed down track. It is rolled and floated, to make it an even surface if it's raining, although a dry track can also be sealed so that water can roll off. Holes can occur when the bottom (or base) partially wash away during heavy rains, and creates an uneven base.

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                      • #51
                        Originally posted by Appsolute View Post
                        Ugggg poor horses, poor jockeys…

                        I have to say, when I saw the headline, I thought, why are we jingling for Charels Town? Everything I have heard makes that place sound less the favorable for horses. I thought this thread was going to be about a possible shut down of the track..

                        But no, it is about more lives lost at a less than stellar facility. Yes, I will jingle for the VICTIMs of Charles Town… but not for the track itself.

                        And I don’t think they should take the video down… why? To hide what happened? To keep people from being outraged that lives, horse and human are being put at risk? Sorry, but I think there should be outrage. Thats great that “Charles Town is not the meat grinder it used to be” and that they don’t have “break downs every night” any more. Maybe with some additional outrage they can improve even more. Or think twice before running horses in poor conditions on a “sealed” track.

                        I think an incident like this, and given the record of this track, deserve some back lash.

                        Found the note under the YouTube video of the race interesting:



                        Horses and greed are a terrible mix.
                        Sealing sometimes has a chemical component in it when there is a freeze.

                        Sealed tracks are not a problem if the track has good footing and they are trying to prevent waterlogging, deep footing, standing water puddles, etc. The problem with this track is that it is only a second thought to the Hollywood Casino, which is what they call it and for which PNGI has recently spent hundreds of millions expanding and building a massive hotel and other amenties like restaurants for the casino. The track itself was supposedly reconditioned, meaning the entire surface down to the base taken out in 2001 I think it was. The gangsters, er, I mean PNGI would not bring in an actual racing surface expert from Maryland who VOLUNTEERED to help in the refurbishing. Why you say? I saw a tractor FALL INTO a spring underneath the track, it is built on a rather large subsurface water system. It will never be right, and there will always be holes no matter what kind of sealing is involved. They also would not agree, (and this is the horseman's association), to build a longer track which may have alleviated this problem. Short sighted, small minded stupidity because the horses were "bred short"? and they were afraid they would not be competitive.

                        It does not have to be this way, and greeed is the most minor of the problems. The casino movement intended for the horses to be phased out and still do. If the country had a healthy agro-industrial economy there would not be an issue, we would not need the mafia to hold racing together.The racing industry in West Virginia politically is overseen by the same agencies in the state as the Timber and Farming so you see, there is where the real issue is, what is the health of the timber and farming industries? What have they become except cartel driven monopolistic operations? Charles Town is most certainly not any longer in the "lower levels" of racing. All of these horses were running for a $28,000 pot. Is that cheap to anyone who knows anything about mid level racing?

                        I love many of the people at Charles Town who do love their horses, and I love all of the horses. I especially keep a bright candle in my heart for Jay Trump, A Touch of Class, and Sinjon, all proof that greatness can come from anywhere at anytime.
                        Last edited by Calamber; Mar. 2, 2012, 10:20 PM.
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                        • #52
                          Originally posted by judybigredpony View Post
                          No one from CT will ever come on here and say a word, they are told in no uncertain terms by Front Management open your mouth loose you stalls....Track was sealed..rolled to keep water from washing surface away...but racing should have been cancelled due to Way To Much water...they then did not unseal track or fluff it/harrow the next day after AM excersize to allow the track a chance to dry out...they have kept is sealed and all that water is sealed underneath, if it perks thru a weak spot you get what is termed a "hole" and thats when you have a real problem...Laurie did I get it right???

                          Yes one horse was limping and had an abvious stifle injury..and people it could have been so way WORSE...
                          You are pretty much right. I don't think training on a sealed track alone is enough to cause a hole but do agree it should be unsealed as soon as the rain is gone. Some people feel that training and racing on a sealed track are bad, some people don't. Some people feel the simple act of sealing is bad and should be done as little as possible. In Maryland they seal the track every single day regardless of the forecast. Some tracks only seal it when rain is forecasted. A big part of CT's problem has nothing to do with the surface itself. It has sharp turns and is very banked the whole way around. The outside legs are literally hitting higher ground than the inside. That is tough.
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                          • #53
                            I've run on sealed tracks that still had "cushion". One of the problems with CT (or used to be) is that when it was sealed it was as hard as I-70...add horses with "problems" and you see issues.

                            Hope everyone is recovering okay.

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                            • #54
                              Those fractions indicated an insanely fast track.
                              McDowell Racing Stables

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                              • #55
                                Originally posted by Stellaspeed View Post
                                This is the little mare who stayed on her feet during the spill.

                                http://pastthegrandstand.blogspot.co...iss-fifty.html
                                Great find.
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                                • #56
                                  Eye witnesses say she was athletic as hell quick whitted and can JUMP!!!!!!!!!

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                                  • #57
                                    Originally posted by Stellaspeed View Post
                                    This is the little mare who stayed on her feet during the spill.

                                    http://pastthegrandstand.blogspot.co...iss-fifty.html
                                    Lovely story. Excellent writing by this young woman. Love how so many horse people are so talented. Hoping the horse will be hers one day.
                                    But he thought, "This procession has got to go on." So he walked more proudly than ever, as his noblemen held high the train that wasn't there at all. H.C.Anderson

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                                    • #58
                                      Wild Mambo

                                      Wild Mambo took a bad step and suffered a low bow to a front tendon. The jockey pulled him up immediately. He will be coming to our farm for lay up and when all healed will be looking for a new home (giveaway). Apparently he is walking soundly and has a very good prognosis. He is in a gelcast for now. He's a sweet gelding.

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                                      • #59
                                        Originally posted by Stellaspeed View Post
                                        This is the little mare who stayed on her feet during the spill.

                                        http://pastthegrandstand.blogspot.co...iss-fifty.html
                                        The win photo shows that Dolph Morrison (Rachel Alexandra's original owner) once owned Miss Fifty.
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                                        • #60
                                          Originally posted by FairWeather View Post
                                          one horse euthanized.
                                          Charles Town used to have a huge number of breakdowns. But, they've made improvements and they are not nearly as frequent as they used to be. I remember at least one horse a night breaking down ten years ago.
                                          One is too many, but CT is not the meat grinder it once was.
                                          That's good to hear, because the last time I was at CT was in the '80's. Not only did I work there for abit, but I dated the track photographer for quite a while.

                                          The place was a pit...half a notch from a total gyp track...

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