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  • Need help identifying this horse and jockey

    My friend received this photo as a gift and would like to identify the horse and jockey. All he knows is it is from the Kentucky Derby. He does not the year or even if the horse won - not much to go on! Any guesses??

    http://s270.photobucket.com/albums/j...rent=photo.jpg
    You are what you dare.

  • #2
    Pincay??

    Cordero?

    No clue about the horse... the colors will be your guide though.

    ~Em
    "Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

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    • Original Poster

      #3
      Where would I start looking up colors?
      You are what you dare.

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      • #4
        I have sent the link to my friend Brian Zipse who is an all out expert on these things.

        Hopefully he can help.

        ~Emily
        "Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

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        • #5
          Going by the age of the photo, it's either Laffit Pincay or Angel Cordero.

          A little down time here at the office has allowed me to look up the histories at kentuckyderby.com. In order of Year-Horse-Owner, here's what I came up with for histories of Laffit Pincay's mounts:

          1971 Unconcious - A. A. Seeligson, Jr.
          1973 Sham - Sigmund Sommer
          1974 Judger - S. W. Hancock
          1975 Diabolo - Frank McMahon
          1977 Affiliate - Harbor View Farm
          1979 General Assembly - B. R. Firestone
          1980 Rumbo - Gayno Stable & Bell Bloodstock Co.
          1981 Pass The Tab - L. Villareal
          1982 Muttering - Tartan Stable
          1983 Caveat - August Belmont IV
          1984 Swale - Claiborne Farm
          1985 Stephan's Odyssey - Henryk de Kwiatowski
          1986 Groovy - Ballis & Kruckel
          1987 Masterful Advocate - Belles & Leveton
          1988 Regal Classic - Sam-Son Farm & Windfields Farm
          1989 Houston - Beal, French & Lukas
          1990 Pendleton Ridge - Bruce McNall
          1993 Tossofthecoin - Sidney craig
          1994 Valiant Nature - Verne H. Winchell

          And for Angel Cordero's mounts:
          1968 Verbatim - Elmendorf
          1970 Corn Off The Cob - Fence Post Farm
          1971 Jim French - F. J. Caldwell
          1974 Cannonade - J. M. Olin
          1975 Sylvan Place - Darby Dan Farm
          1976 Bold Forbes - E. R. Tizol
          1977 For The Moment - Gerald Robins
          1979 Screen King - Flying Zee Stables
          1980 Gold Stage - Mrs. Philip B. Hofmann
          1981 Flying Nashua - Jensen, Digiulio, Homan, Ronca
          1982 Air Forbes Won - Edward Anchel
          1983 Slew O'Gold - Equusequity Stable
          1985 Spend A Buck - Hunter Farm
          1987 Capote - Klein, French, Beal
          1988 Brian's Time - Mr. & Mrs. James Phillips
          1990 Land Rush - D. W. Lukas & Overbrook
          1991 Quintana - Gary Garber

          Anyway, it's a start.
          Last edited by WhiteCamry; Aug. 9, 2011, 02:44 PM.
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          • #6
            Sent a note to a friend at HRTV to see if either she or Jon white can figure it out.

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            • #7
              They look like Preston Maddens colors.

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              • #8
                Posted on Horse Racing Nation's FB Also.

                We'll see.

                ~Emily
                "Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

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                  #9
                  Wow thanks everyone!
                  You are what you dare.

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                  • #10
                    You can narrow it down to the #6 horses as well.

                    Christa

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                    • #11
                      I wrote teh Jockey club. If anyone has a searchable database of colors, it should be them.
                      madeline
                      * What you release is what you teach * Don't be distracted by unwanted behavior* Whoever waits the longest is the teacher. Van Hargis

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                      • #12
                        Doesn't look like Angel to me, wrong facial features. Pincay would be my next guess. If I see Angel tomorrow, I'll try to remember to ask him.
                        Different Times Equestrian Ventures at Hidden Spring Ranch
                        www.DifferentTimesEquestrianVentures.com

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                        • #13
                          According to the JC, colors belone to Preston Madden. Brava Lily04.
                          madeline
                          * What you release is what you teach * Don't be distracted by unwanted behavior* Whoever waits the longest is the teacher. Van Hargis

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                          • #14
                            Is the horse One Drink with Pincay? Didn't run in the Kentucky Derby, but won the Derby Trial at Fairplex...

                            http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbH...145&registry=T

                            http://archive.ctba.com/09magazine/m...berprofile.pdf
                            Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO

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                            • #15
                              Also, Preston Madden had a 10th place finisher in the 1972 Kentucky Derby named "Kentuckian" with Donald Brumfield up. Can't find a picture... but here's Don Brumfield:

                              http://www.racingmuseum.org/hall-of-...w.asp?varID=14

                              http://cgi.ebay.com/DON-BRUMFIELD-Jo...-/260824360004
                              Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO

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                              • #16
                                I really need a job... or to at least go ride my horse, because:

                                http://cgi.ebay.com/1972-KENTUCKY-DE...item2c5e5141cd

                                So the horse is indeed the #6 horse in the 1972 Kentucky Derby, Kentuckian. Very cool!
                                Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO

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                                • #17
                                  Ahhhh kudos to Ray paulick to replied to me on FB that it looked like Don Brumfield. I forgot to post over here.

                                  Damn.

                                  ~Em
                                  "Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries

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                                  • Original Poster

                                    #18
                                    Thank you all so much!
                                    You are what you dare.

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