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historical question about Man'O'War

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  • historical question about Man'O'War

    So, I was looking through old photos of Big Red and I swear he is barefoot. Did they race barefoot back in the day?

    Seemed strange to me.
    The rider casts his heart over the fence,
    the horse jumps in pursuit of it.

    –Hans-Heinrich Isenbart

  • #2
    Nope he had shoes on


    • #3
      Originally posted by spotted draft x filly View Post
      Nope he had shoes on
      Not too sure this proves anything other than someone had a shoe with a plaque that claims it is Man O' War's shoe. Nothing further to ad to the specific question but this is a bit silly.
      "We, too, will be remembered not for victories or defeats in battle or in politics, but for our contribution to the human spirit." JFK


      • #4
        The extensively researched and cited Man o' War: A Legend Like Lightning by Dorothy Ours includes a story from morning exercise leading up to a big race when he came back lame. Trainer was having a heart attack until it was discovered that Red had simply thrown a shoe. Not worth my time to look it up right now, but she would have exact references on that in the notes at the back. The book was marvelously researched.


        • #5
          I've been lucky enough to see 'family' albums of Man O' War and Golden Broom- he was certainly shod in the racing pics.


          • #6
            Originally posted by Calamber View Post
            Not too sure this proves anything other than someone had a shoe with a plaque that claims it is Man O' War's shoe. Nothing further to ad to the specific question but this is a bit silly.
            Are you always this abrasive and baleful or is this just a phase that we can help you get through ?
            "I would not beleive her if her tongue came notorized"


            • #7
              Originally posted by Calamber View Post
              Not too sure this proves anything other than someone had a shoe with a plaque that claims it is Man O' War's shoe. Nothing further to ad to the specific question but this is a bit silly.
              That horse shoe and others are at the Keeneland Library so I'm pretty sure it's legit.


              • #8
                I thought I saw a framed shoe from Man O' War at Old Friends in Kentucky ...

                but regardless, looks like COTH answered the question!


                • #9
                  Oddly if you Google Man O War + Shoes it puts you into the Google Book results for the online copy of the book, "Man O war: A legend Like Lightning"

                  When you search the book's text for the term "Shoes"

                  You can see that Man O war actually lost shoes in various races, quite often in fact.

                  So the OP could be correct. She could have seen a picture of him without shoes, when in fact he had started his races with shoes.

                  "Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all." ~2001 The Princess Diaries


                  • #10
                    Or in his retirement he might not have had shoes on. Not sure of his hoof integrity but I do think it likely he would not have been shod once he was retired to the breeding shed.
                    Adoring fan of A Fine Romance
                    Originally Posted by alicen:
                    What serious breeder would think that a horse at that performance level is push button? Even so, that's still a lot of buttons to push.


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dressagetraks View Post
                      The extensively researched and cited Man o' War: A Legend Like Lightning by Dorothy Ours.
                      Indeed thoroughly researched although in printed book form with the index there is no single entry of "shoes" or "farrier". On-line you can find the phrase easily and maybe if someone has it on a Nook or Kindle they could pull it up quick too.

                      The Ours book (in my view) is rather hard to read because of the particular narrative style and how thick it is with detail. Anyone picking up and expecting the smooth style of a Seabiscuit will find this to be almost more crude in its form. Perhaps that's why despite him towering over all others the best reference book on him wasn't a best seller

                      Video on Man o'War as well as another collection of video.


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by hackinaround View Post
                        Are you always this abrasive and baleful or is this just a phase that we can help you get through ?
                        !!!!! LOVE it !!!!!
                        Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans