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  • Sweet Catomine - Kentucky Derby 2005?

    I have to admit as I have been reviewing again the Breeders' Cup preview DVD that the filly Sweet Catomine is wicked impressive ... I dare say more so then even her male counterparts.

    A big, big girl who seems to know how to run the races - she isn't like say last year's Ruffian-esq Madcap Escape who loved speed from the word go - but rather she stalks then closes like the proverbial freight train.

    Now comes this very bold article regarding what she could do:

    Sweet Catomine is the early pick for the Derby
    Pasadena Star News (CA) 11/30/04

    IT'S tough enough to pick who's going to run in the Kentucky Derby five months before the race, let alone predict who's going to win the Run for the Roses.

    But you can take this to the bank Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies winner Sweet Catomine will be a serious threat to become the first filly to win the Derby since Winning Colors in 1988 if trainer Julio Canani elects to try the daughter of Storm Cat against the boys.

    This was the first year Canani has started a juvenile in the Breeders' Cup. He's won the Mile twice, but never before did he feel he had a colt or filly worthy of running in the World Thoroughbred Championships.

    That says something about Sweet Catomine. So, too, does the filly's monster 3 3/4-length victory over 11 rivals in the Juvenile Fillies last month at Lone Star Park. And consider this: The Juvenile winner, Wilko, ran the 1 1/16 miles in 1:42 two-fifths of a second slower than Sweet Catomine's 1:41 3/5.

    Sprinkle in the fact that Sweet Catomine had to overcome trouble in the crowded field, and it all adds up to the fact that Canani, jockey Corey Nakatani and owners Martin and Pam Wygod could have one tough decision to make come the first Saturday in May.

    Of course, we all thought that about Halfbridled last year. She looked so impressive in winning the Juvenile Fillies at Oak Tree, was a big, strong filly like Sweet Catomine, and had a Hall of Fame trainer in Richard Mandella.

    The key is whether Sweet Catomine continues to improve early next year and stays healthy. If she does, and it's a big if considering how fragile these horses are, then Nakatani could be looking at his first victory in a Triple Crown race.

    "I think she's the best 2-year-old in the country by far colts or fillies,' Nakatani said. "On Breeders' Cup day, if she was eligible to run in the Juvenile, she'd have won 500,000 more dollars. She's better than those colts.'

    Why is everybody so high on this filly? Well, the Breeders' Cup wasn't the first time she's out-run the boys. When she won the Oak Leaf Stakes at Santa Anita on Oct. 2, she ran the 1 1/16 miles in 1:42 4/5. The next day, the highly regarded Roman Ruler won the Norfolk Stakes for 2- year-old males in 1:44.

    No, fast times don't always equate into greatness. But in this instance, with Sweet Catomine's size, royal bloodlines and penchant for winning by large margins, it only figures she's going to be something special if she continues to improve and avoids that old injury bugaboo.

    "We'll see what happens at the beginning of this next year,' Nakatani said. "Obviously, she's going to move forward and go through the steppingstones, and if it happens that we go to the Derby with her ... (well) Julio and Mr. Wygod will make the decision.

    "We'll have to weigh the options at that point. Most likely, if I think she's good enough, we'll go that way.'

    A winner of three of four races lifetime she finished second in her 5 1/2-furlong career debut at Del Mar Sweet Catomine could give us all a thrill in 2005.

    "She's unbelievable,' Nakatani said.
  • Original Poster

    #2
    I have to admit as I have been reviewing again the Breeders' Cup preview DVD that the filly Sweet Catomine is wicked impressive ... I dare say more so then even her male counterparts.

    A big, big girl who seems to know how to run the races - she isn't like say last year's Ruffian-esq Madcap Escape who loved speed from the word go - but rather she stalks then closes like the proverbial freight train.

    Now comes this very bold article regarding what she could do:

    Sweet Catomine is the early pick for the Derby
    Pasadena Star News (CA) 11/30/04

    IT'S tough enough to pick who's going to run in the Kentucky Derby five months before the race, let alone predict who's going to win the Run for the Roses.

    But you can take this to the bank Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies winner Sweet Catomine will be a serious threat to become the first filly to win the Derby since Winning Colors in 1988 if trainer Julio Canani elects to try the daughter of Storm Cat against the boys.

    This was the first year Canani has started a juvenile in the Breeders' Cup. He's won the Mile twice, but never before did he feel he had a colt or filly worthy of running in the World Thoroughbred Championships.

    That says something about Sweet Catomine. So, too, does the filly's monster 3 3/4-length victory over 11 rivals in the Juvenile Fillies last month at Lone Star Park. And consider this: The Juvenile winner, Wilko, ran the 1 1/16 miles in 1:42 two-fifths of a second slower than Sweet Catomine's 1:41 3/5.

    Sprinkle in the fact that Sweet Catomine had to overcome trouble in the crowded field, and it all adds up to the fact that Canani, jockey Corey Nakatani and owners Martin and Pam Wygod could have one tough decision to make come the first Saturday in May.

    Of course, we all thought that about Halfbridled last year. She looked so impressive in winning the Juvenile Fillies at Oak Tree, was a big, strong filly like Sweet Catomine, and had a Hall of Fame trainer in Richard Mandella.

    The key is whether Sweet Catomine continues to improve early next year and stays healthy. If she does, and it's a big if considering how fragile these horses are, then Nakatani could be looking at his first victory in a Triple Crown race.

    "I think she's the best 2-year-old in the country by far colts or fillies,' Nakatani said. "On Breeders' Cup day, if she was eligible to run in the Juvenile, she'd have won 500,000 more dollars. She's better than those colts.'

    Why is everybody so high on this filly? Well, the Breeders' Cup wasn't the first time she's out-run the boys. When she won the Oak Leaf Stakes at Santa Anita on Oct. 2, she ran the 1 1/16 miles in 1:42 4/5. The next day, the highly regarded Roman Ruler won the Norfolk Stakes for 2- year-old males in 1:44.

    No, fast times don't always equate into greatness. But in this instance, with Sweet Catomine's size, royal bloodlines and penchant for winning by large margins, it only figures she's going to be something special if she continues to improve and avoids that old injury bugaboo.

    "We'll see what happens at the beginning of this next year,' Nakatani said. "Obviously, she's going to move forward and go through the steppingstones, and if it happens that we go to the Derby with her ... (well) Julio and Mr. Wygod will make the decision.

    "We'll have to weigh the options at that point. Most likely, if I think she's good enough, we'll go that way.'

    A winner of three of four races lifetime she finished second in her 5 1/2-furlong career debut at Del Mar Sweet Catomine could give us all a thrill in 2005.

    "She's unbelievable,' Nakatani said.

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    • Original Poster

      #3
      I love it - no bubble wrap for this super filly, racing her as god intended

      Blood-Horse 1/8/04 "Sweet Catomine Set to Go, Rain or Shine"

      Despite inclement weather and the likelihood of an "off" track, trainer Julio Canani said the daughter of Storm Cat owned by Mr. and Mrs. Martin Wygod will run.

      Sweet Catomine will be reunited with jockey David Flores, who rode the Kentucky-bred bay filly to a second-place finish in her debut at Del Mar July 31. Corey Nakatani, who was aboard in the Juvenile Fillies and for a four-length victory in the Oak Leaf Stakes (gr. II) Oct. 2, presently is serving a 30-day suspension.


      Go Cat go!!!

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      • Original Poster

        #4
        <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
        Despite inclement weather and the likelihood of an "off" track, trainer Julio Canani said the daughter of Storm Cat owned by Mr. and Mrs. Martin Wygod will run. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

        Even Canani couldn't have expected the continued downpouring that So. Cal has been hit with at Santa Anita - Sweet Catomine was scratched from the Santa Ysabel stakes this morning.

        The conditions are horrible and at least one fell on the sealed track in an early race.

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        • #5
          Well, after the disappointment of Halfbridled (who I thought was the second coming of Ruffian), I will reserve judgement on Cat until after today...or maybe her next race. But wouldn't that be something, another filly winner of the KD after so long.

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          • Original Poster

            #6
            MDO I don't think you'll be disappointed if you do wait until then - I know she'll put on a good show.

            Point of correction: Santa Anita was cancelled - not just Sweet Catomine scratched. First time in 10 years the race course was forced to cancell all races after the 1st race. No word on when the G-3 Santa Ysabel will be rescheduled.

            Very sad however was that "Unusual Sunrise" broke down [likely due to the conditions] in that first race that did get off

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            • Original Poster

              #7
              The cat returns tomorrow - Sunday 1/16 - for the rescheduled G-3 Santa Ysabel - as the odds on favorite

              I think I'm not alone in says she will destroy this field of five other fillies. As said best by a competitor:

              "Sweet Catomine is probably unbeatable, but running second to her is not going to hurt," said trainer Bob Baffert, who supplemented Pussycat Doll to the race for $2,000.

              DFR 1/15/05 "Sweet Catomine in season bow"

              "Horses should go forward, she's growing, and she's more mature," [Trainer Julio] Canani said. And she is still awfully fast. She worked three furlongs Thursday in 35 seconds, and earned the bullet for a 59.80 workout on Jan. 1.

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              • Original Poster

                #8
                Santa Anita - race 3 - Santa Ysabel Stakes: 1/16/05

                Sweet Catomine with ease over the field

                1 1/16 Miles.

                1st Sweet Catomine - won in 1:43.47
                2nd Pussycat Doll
                3rd On London Time

                The supercat was carrying 124 lbs to the others 115 lbs. I think she is ready for taking on the boys!

                [edited for correct finishing time]

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                • #9
                  Here's the Bloodhorse article

                  http://racing.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=26262
                  -Painted Wings

                  Set youself apart from the crowd, ride a paint horse, you're sure to be spotted

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                  • #10
                    If she can keep winning without a touch of Mr. Prospector anywhere, that can't help but be good for the breed.
                    "I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay."
                    Thread killer Extraordinaire

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                    • #11
                      Yes it was definitely easy for her, but I want to see her do the same to some higher class fillies before I say 'ok, take on the boys'. Can't help being just a tad skeptical, the fillies who can wallop the best of the boys are few and far between. Would be great, though, if she's the one.

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                      • Original Poster

                        #12
                        From the Louisville Courier-Journal 1/17 "Sweet Catomine rolls in '05 debut "

                        "I don't want to be cocky, but I know what I've been doing with her, and there's more in the tank," trainer Julio Canani said. "There's a lot in the tank. She has really matured."

                        "She's just something else," [Jock, David] Flores said. "...I just kind of let her cruise down the lane."

                        Canani declined to talk about the Derby but said his filly likely will start next in the Grade I Las Virgenes Stakes for 3-year-old fillies at one mile on Feb.12.

                        Sweet Catomine accounted for $478,383 of the $502,194 bet to place, and $101,861 of $143,393 wagered to win.

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                        • #13
                          owning a cousin to Catomine, i'm really looking forward to seeing what this mare can do. Should be interesting!
                          Different Times Equestrian Ventures at Hidden Spring Ranch
                          www.DifferentTimesEquestrianVentures.com

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                          • #14
                            I watched the race on ESPN2 this morning (staying home from work sick--honest). She looked pretty good. came between horses nicely. Beyer was 86 or something. Had the jockey with whom she lost her only start. Trainer said she was not 100% for the race. I am not sure what that meant.
                            A man must love a thing very much if he not only practices it without any hope of fame or money, but even practices it without any hope of doing it well.--G. K. Chesterton

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                            • Original Poster

                              #15
                              <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lizathenag:
                              Trainer said she was not 100% for the race. I am not sure what that meant. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

                              With the very heavy rains in California, Sweet Catomine really hadn't had much of a chance to stretch her legs in a training program they would've liked. Thus her trainer said she wasn't only at about 70% of her true stregnth.

                              David Flores (the jock) was clearly told to not impress the grandstands with a blowout - she did only what she needed to do to win, plus learn yet another lesson about coping with traffic and to pace herself.

                              There is plenty more power on tap with her

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                              • #16
                                thanks for the explanation. I was afraid she was only 70% sound.
                                A man must love a thing very much if he not only practices it without any hope of fame or money, but even practices it without any hope of doing it well.--G. K. Chesterton

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                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  Her taking on the boys before the Derby seems all the more likely

                                  Filly champ may test males

                                  By BRAD FREE - DRF 1/25/05

                                  ARCADIA, Calif. - The filly Sweet Catomine will be freshened until March before an ambitious campaign that may lead to an April 9 clash against males in the Santa Anita Derby.

                                  Owner-breeder Marty Wygod mapped Sweet Catomine's springtime agenda Monday night in Beverly Hills, where she was named champion juvenile filly of 2004.

                                  Wygod said Sweet Catomine will skip the Grade 1 Las Virgenes Stakes on Feb. 12, and aim for the Grade 1 Santa Anita Oaks on March 13.

                                  Wygod was asked where she would go next. "If she wins the Oaks, probably the Santa Anita Derby."

                                  Of the 25 fillies who have started in the Santa Anita Derby, three have won - Winning Colors in 1988, Silver Spoon in 1959, and Ciencia in 1939. Winning Colors followed her Santa Anita Derby with a wire-to-wire victory in the Kentucky Derby.

                                  Wygod is hopeful Sweet Catomine follows suit.

                                  [snip]

                                  "We don't want to run her too many times," Wygod said. "The Oaks is 54 days from the Santa Ysabel. To run in the [Las Virgenes] 26 days out, and come back and go in the Oaks, and then the Santa Anita Derby, and then if she's good enough, the Kentucky Derby, is too much. That would not be fair to her. Her next race is the Santa Anita Oaks."

                                  Canani said Sweet Catomine might breeze a half-mile later this week. She resumed galloping on Monday.

                                  "She's doing unbelievable; now she is in orbit," Canani said, adding that a start in the Santa Anita Derby could depend on "if there are no superstars coming up."

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                                  • Original Poster

                                    #18
                                    <span class="ev_code_BLUE">The 2005 Kentucky Oaks website is loaded</span>

                                    For anyone who hasn't seen Sweet Catomine run I would suggest checking out the videos on-line of the big gal! Oaks link to the Cat's stats, photos and videos

                                    Lets hope they switch her over from the Oaks to the Derby

                                    Go baby Go!

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                                    • Original Poster

                                      #19
                                      gulp! The super Cat might be taking on the boys earlier then expected

                                      The Blood-Horse 2/25/05 "Weather to Determine Sweet Catomine's Next Start"

                                      Mr. and Mrs. Martin Wygod's Sweet Catomine, last year's juvenile filly champ, has been nominated to the March 5 Fountain of Youth Stakes (gr. II), and could run in the nine-furlong race at Florida's Gulfstream Park if the bad weather in Southern California hampers her training, trainer Julio Canani said Friday.

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                                      • Original Poster

                                        #20
                                        Sweet Catomine will be facing a very thin field for Sunday's (3/13) Santa Anita Oaks (G1) at 1 1/16 mi. She looks to be simply a monster over the rest The Cat worked yesterday over four furlongs in 0:48

                                        Likely field on Sunday:

                                        * Sweet Catomine
                                        * Feel The Heat
                                        * Guaranteed Victory (maybe)
                                        * Cream Donut
                                        * Memorette

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