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  • Off to the races .. at 10-yrs old

    We've cited other horses that jump in the game a bit late in life some with success but largely not so much. Well (as noted by equidaily.com) here was one of the most senior of runners jumping into the deep end of the pool:

    Turf Paradise Oct 10, 2010, Race 4 (chart)

    Charming Fella (CA) (10-yr old gelding) never started in a race before. Per the chart "drew off under left handed urging and won going away."

    Yes for all those numerologists: 10yr old racing on 10-10-10, perhaps that explains why his odds were by no means the highest in the field.

    $3,300 now banked for 10-yrs worth of preparation
    Last edited by Glimmerglass; Oct. 13, 2010, 09:50 AM.

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    Interesting that he got a little bit of support at the windows.

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    • #3
      That's pretty cool!
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      • #4
        Obviously, 10-10-10-10 is good luck!
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          U see his works? Breezed 3/8's on 9/23 -- 3 days later on 9/26 breezed 6f -- 4 days later on 9/30 breezed 6f -- 4 days later on 10/4 breezed 4f & 6 days later on 10/10 win running 5f in 58 & change going wire to wire.... a schedule I can honestly say I've never seen before.....but then again I have never seen a 10 yr. old first time starter.

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            Maybe he was just really, REALLY slow to mature....
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            • #7
              I say kudos to the track for allowing an older maiden to start and for giving a trainer time to bring a horse along if that's what they want to do.

              We sent a 4 y.o. to the show pen last year to mature and get some manners. He ended up leading the nation and this year as a 5 y.o.....he has a few months left to win a race or he's done :-(

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                Originally posted by gallupgirl View Post
                I say kudos to the track for allowing an older maiden to start and for giving a trainer time to bring a horse along if that's what they want to do.
                TP is rare in their lack of age of restrictions. As I recall from prior discussion topics the owners could not have started this 10 yr old maiden runner on a Kentucky or New York track. Notably the last maiden runner-winner of a mature age on a NYRA track was 6-yr old Toso in Nov 2008.

                Purportedly - this based upon comments from others - this 10-yr had been entered many times (a dozen or more) in races over multiple years, but was scratched. So this was anything but a "hey I got an idea for something to do this Sunday"

                gallupgirl at least you can say you had ties to that leading horse!

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                  Btw Charming Fella makes his 2nd lifetime start in the 7th race at Turf Paradise. He is currently the wagering favorite in a 9-horse field at 8/5.

                  5 1/2 furlongs for $5,500: For Three Year Olds And Upward Which Have Never Won Two Races

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                    #10
                    Cash the check, baby

                    Charming Fella runs away from the field and seems to like this "racing thing" at the old age of 10.

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                    • #11
                      That is AWESOME!!!!

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                      • #12
                        Very cool
                        Btw, the tag was $3500. Still, a win is a win and he's two for two!

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                        • #13
                          And the 10-year-old makes it 3 in a row, winning yesterday by 2 1/2 lengths in "driving finish":

                          http://www.equibase.com/static/chart...102910USA6.pdf

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                            I would love to hear his story for the last 8 years.

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                              It looks like he was claimed off that 2nd start.

                              So while he's taken to "this racing thing" rather well he must be wondering whats going on

                              Sitting on the shelf for almost a decade and then boom 3 races relatively quickly. With a few tweaks there's a potential Disney movie in there

                              1st race: Oct 10
                              2nd race: Oct 22
                              3rd race: Oct 29

                              3 3-0-0 $ 10,020

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                              • #16
                                At first glance I thought the title of this thread was about The Green Monkey LOL.

                                I'm glad this guy seems to be happily going along. I too am curious about why the delay, but I bet he's a very fit very sane racer. He's got a good 8 years of prep time
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                                  Charming Fella , claimed today outta the 4th race at Turf Paradise for 5,000. He beat one horse.
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                                    And just to be balanced .. not all maiden starts at a late age turn out as successfully as Charming Fella has. This has hints of the Sam P mess with an understanding of "no racing":

                                    TB Times 12-7-10 "Disastrous debut for eight-year-old gelding at Mountaineer"

                                    Lemon Arbor was never competitive in a $5,000 maiden-claiming race before he was pulled up and vanned off with a bowed tendon that apparently will keep him from racing again.

                                    Lemon Arbor debuted seven years after Eugene Melnyk bought him for $350,000 in the 2003 Keeneland September yearling sale. Melnyk’s farm manager, Phil Hronec, said Lemon Arbor had bowed twice before he was given to trainer Mike Murphy in May 2009 with the understanding that the horse would never race and would be re-trained to be a hunter-jumper or riding horse.

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