• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Eclipse Awards - tonight (1/21)

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Eclipse Awards - tonight (1/21)

    I'm sure most people know this but the Eclipse Awards will be handed out live tonight from the Beverly Wilshire Four Seasons Hotel in Beverly Hills, CA

    The awards will be televised live on TVG starting at 9:30 EST.

    Kenny Rice will host the show, which will announce the presentation for Horse of the Year at the end of the broadcast.

    Curlin should do very well with expectations running high to take Champion male 3-yr old and HOY; it is still unclear about the older male horse category although I'd expect Invasor to win it despite the abreviated year due to injury.

    The Eclipse Awards are presented by the NTRA, National Turf Writers Association and Daily Racing Form.
  • Original Poster

    #2
    I just was able to turn on the Eclipse broadcast .. oddly Lahudood won for Turf female to almost a zero response, chilly reception.

    Good Night Shirt won the steeplechase as expected

    Comment


    • #3
      YEA GOODNIGHT SHIRT!!!

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by Glimmerglass View Post
        Lahudood won for Turf female to almost a zero response, chilly reception.
        You have got to be kidding.

        Comment

        • Original Poster

          #5
          Breeder Eclipse: Frank Stronach's Adena Springs Farm won by them for the 3rd year in a row

          Comment

          • Original Poster

            #6
            Champion Female Sprinter: Maryfield, who won this year's inaugural running of the BC Female Sprinter division in the Friday slop.

            Comment

            • Original Poster

              #7
              Trainer of the Year: Todd Pletcher takes his 4th year in a row for this Eclipse award.

              Comment

              • Original Poster

                #8
                As expected ....

                3-yr old male: Curlin

                3-yr old female: Rags to Riches

                Comment

                • Original Poster

                  #9
                  Eclipse for jockey: Garrett Gomez

                  Apprentice jockey: Joe Talamo

                  Comment

                  • Original Poster

                    #10
                    An upset: Champion Older Male - Lawyer Ron takes the Eclipse!

                    Comment

                    • Original Poster

                      #11
                      2007 Horse of The Year: Curlin

                      Comment

                      • Original Poster

                        #12
                        And Jess Jackson in his acceptance speech for the HOY said "... and that is why we are going to race Curlin this year (at the age of 4) ..." so there you go - we'll see what he can happen!

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Glimmerglass View Post
                          An upset: Champion Older Male - Lawyer Ron takes the Eclipse!
                          Nice to see LR win. The first half of his season was plenty deserving with his G1 wins and track record. But I'm a little bummed he's the best we got as far as older horses go, and even he's retired now
                          Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO

                          Comment

                          • Original Poster

                            #14
                            I don't recall just how serious Invasor's injury was - e.g., could he have been on the mend for six months and come back - as it would've been nice to see him race also a few more times. Let's face it his stud fee isn't that significiant and the Sheik didn't need the breeding revenue. Folks have said they deeply respect what Invasor accomplished as a runner but breeding wise on paper he's not the son of blahblahblah.

                            I'm not saying he should've been run into the ground by any means, but he could've been an example of a horse lightly run for yet another year in very select races provided his performances were up to par.

                            Lawyer Ron ran far longer than expected based upon the pressures of pre-signed agreements with him at stud and money traded at the age of 3-yr before the Kentucky Derby. His best distance simply wasn't 1 1/4 mi so it was a shame to see him flop at the BCC after that magnificent, track record setting effort at Saratoga.

                            Just a basic comment but for those who didn't watch the Eclipse Awards consider yourself lucky! This year was no different then others of late with overall terrible speeches, complete lack of enthusiasm, lame gags and "jokes", and no significant surprises in the winners. Folks know I don't care for Jess Jackson but I'll say to his credit his remarks were the only ones that had a hint of emotion and genuine interest in sharing the award with others.

                            If anyone thought the producers might have copied the successful formula of other award shows - with video shorts dispursed through the telecast reflecting the year in review or a look back at who passed away or even what records were broken - you'd be mistaken. None of that occured. No idea why anyone would pay the $10,000 + for a table ....

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Glimmerglass View Post
                              I don't recall just how serious Invasor's injury was - e.g., could he have been on the mend for six months and come back - as it would've been nice to see him race also a few more times. Let's face it his stud fee isn't that significiant and the Sheik didn't need the breeding revenue. Folks have said they deeply respect what Invasor accomplished as a runner but breeding wise on paper he's not the son of blahblahblah.
                              His injury was pretty significant and I've heard questions about his ability to even hold up to covering mares. When I inspected him, he was still on stall rest and looked pretty sore (he was an awfully good boy for being on stall rest, too). Sheikh Hamdan has been pretty good about running his stallions for a long time. You could argue that none of the older runners accomplished what Invasor did, so he didn't have the incentive to retire them, but he still has kept several of his stallions running longer than a lot of people would.

                              Am very glad to hear Curlin will continue running!!

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                No idea why anyone would pay the $10,000 + for a table ....
                                Maybe the food was really good?

                                I didn't watch, but I'm not at all surprised by your description. How often does racing get it right when something is televised?

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  IIRC, Invasor fractured a sesamoid behind, and also it was not the first time he had had an injury in that area on that leg. I don't think returning him to racing could ever be an option. Sesamoids are tricky.

                                  I don't think there's any doubt that Invasor is the better horse overall, but when looking at how much Lawyer Ron accomplished in 07 I can understand why he won.

                                  Complete vote tallies are at the bottom of the DRF's Eclipse summary write-up.

                                  Comment

                                  • Original Poster

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SleepyFox View Post
                                    Maybe the food was really good?
                                    I think I overstated the cost of a table - not sure.

                                    Listed here is the rate of $300 a plate

                                    Further comments from Bill Christine (the former LA Times racing reporter):

                                    Star power used to give the Eclipse dinners pizazz, particularly the ones held near Hollywood, but this time the celebrity presenters were but three--Kim Delaney, Leslie Jordan and Angie Dickinson, who wore a floppy hat and was introduced by master of ceremonies Kenny Rice as "Hollywood royalty." Jordan, an Emmy Award winner like Delaney, once worked as an exercise rider for trainer Horatio Luro, and he recycled a couple of Luro stories that he had told at a previous Eclipse dinner. They weren't as funny this time.

                                    Comment

                                    Working...
                                    X