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    Originally posted by EventerAJ View Post

    We were in the pavillion when the cheap.one came through. The auctioneer struggled to open. My husband raised his hand at 4. I nearly slapped him, hissing "What are you doing?!!" He whispered back, "The Chromies will pay more than that if we crowdfund him on Facebook."

    I was much relieved when the bid went up to 7k. For someone else.

    The colt wasn't terrible. He was moderately attractive, and not the worst CC I've seen. Had a long back, as many seem to have. The 95k one was actually pretty nice, very Dixie Union. Many, MANY horses were out of the sale, and prices were a bit all over the place. A POTN half to Mine That Bird & Dullahan hammered at 75k.
    Air Force Blue certainly had a popular one.

    There were a lot of outs. But it could have been worse.

    I watched online...

    Watching the walk and under tack videos, I can understand the problem breeders have had with C.C. even granted that they are 2 year olds.

    I hope they'll find mares that work well with him in Japan and that he'll get some super movers over there.

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      Originally posted by Where'sMyWhite View Post
      I keep coming back to thinking of Sunday Silence. Performed well on the track (KD, Preakness, BC Classic, HOY in 1989) but certainly wasn't well respected in the US breeding shed. Full ownership to Japan where he started his breeding career in 1991 and was an incredible sire.

      Would Sunday Silence have produced in the US what he produced in Japan? No way to know. What is known is that Sunday Silence *did* make a name and reputation for himself in the shed in Japan. He made that legacy in just 11 years (before passing away at 16).

      Perhaps the same will happen to CC. Not the respect that some feel he deserved in the US sheds. Maybe he'll be another Sunday Silence with a huge legacy in Japan.

      IMO, isn't "better" if a stallion goes to where they are wanted and with a potential opportunity to create their own legacy rather than staying in the country where they were bred and raced but close to ignored?
      I don't know hardly anything about tb breeding. Can you elaborate why Sunday Silence had more success in japan than here? Were they breeding to a different "type" of mare, or different bloodlines than the US breeder?

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        Originally posted by jetsmom View Post

        I don't know hardly anything about tb breeding. Can you elaborate why Sunday Silence had more success in japan than here? Were they breeding to a different "type" of mare, or different bloodlines than the US breeder?
        North American breeders weren't interested in him. Japanese breeders were. I don't believe he ever had a full crop the U.S. before he was exported.

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          Originally posted by EventerAJ View Post

          We were in the pavillion when the cheap.one came through. The auctioneer struggled to open. My husband raised his hand at 4. I nearly slapped him, hissing "What are you doing?!!" He whispered back, "The Chromies will pay more than that if we crowdfund him on Facebook."
          ....I have to say I like how your husband thinks and I'm not sure he's wrong.
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            Originally posted by skydy View Post

            North American breeders weren't interested in him. Japanese breeders were. I don't believe he ever had a full crop the U.S. before he was exported.
            Sunday Silence never stood at stud in the U.S. Arthur Hancock tried to syndicate him to stand him here, but there wasn't enough interest, so he sold him instead.
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              Originally posted by LaurieB View Post

              Sunday Silence never stood at stud in the U.S. Arthur Hancock tried to syndicate him to stand him here, but there wasn't enough interest, so he sold him instead.
              I seem to recall Arthur also needed the money at the time. I guess he initially hoped the funds would come from stud fees and syndication, but when that didn't happen, he sold to Yoshida.

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                Really nice Candy Ride colt in the ring at OBS.

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                  California Chrome's get at OBS today; 2 RNA, one filly 90k and one colt 10K.

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                    C.C. colt in supplement at OBS sold 225K.

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                      California Chrome colt out of an Unbridled's Song mare sold to Repole/St.Elias for 725K.

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                        The first dam on that one is a half to Derby favorite Tiz The Law (Constitution) and worked a quarter in 20.3.
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                          Originally posted by EventerAJ View Post
                          The first dam on that one is a half to Derby favorite Tiz The Law (Constitution) and worked a quarter in 20.3.
                          Yes, the prices for his get definitely reflect the Dam lines. He seems to have better physicals with Unbridled's Song mares from what I can see, but they really are all over the place.

                          The willingness to pay more for two year olds in training because of their breeze times pre-sale is puzzling (to me anyway).

                          Interesting that C.C's most expensive colt had a testicle removed surgically and that one was a ridgling. Are there Jockey Club stats on how many ridglings a stallion produces? They can be successful stallions (A.P. Indy is always used as the example) but it would be interesting to know if some stallions produce statistically more than others. It would be interesting to have those stats for mares as well.



                          Did you see the Midshipman that sold for 30 something K? Was it as nice as it looked online?

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                            California Chrome will have his first U.S. starter today when "Cilla" debuts in a maiden special weight, race1 at Delaware Park
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                              Originally posted by LaurieB View Post
                              California Chrome will have his first U.S. starter today when "Cilla" debuts in a maiden special weight, race1 at Delaware Park
                              Cilla finished 3rd, beaten 4-5 lengths after making up a nice amount of ground at the end.
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                                Originally posted by LaurieB View Post

                                Cilla finished 3rd, beaten 4-5 lengths after making up a nice amount of ground at the end.
                                Just watched it a bit delayed. Thought Cilla was out of it but a nice rally down the stretch. Wonder if she might benefit with a longer distance...
                                Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. An observation that a person's sense of morality lessens as his or her power increases. Lord Acton

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                                  I’ve not heard as much as I thought I would, about any of the CC 2 y/o’s in training. Any of the others race ready?
                                  Nice first time out run.
                                  https://www.delawarepark.com/racing/audio-video/

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                                    Several of his get went through the Fasig Tipton "Midlantic" 2 year-olds in Training. They didn't bring a lot of interest.

                                    You can see their under tack videos here: http://www.fasigtipton.com/2020/Midl...ornia%20chrome

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                                      Originally posted by mommy peanut View Post
                                      I’ve not heard as much as I thought I would, about any of the CC 2 y/o’s in training. Any of the others race ready?
                                      Nice first time out run.
                                      https://www.delawarepark.com/racing/audio-video/
                                      Now that he's out of the country, I don't know any way to easily track his 2yos (even the ones in the U.S) With stallions that stand here, you can look up entries on the BloodHorse stallion register. But CC doesn't have a page anymore.

                                      If anyone cared enough, they could look up the names of his current 2yos and do a search one-by-one through Equibase.
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                                        I just pulled up Chrome on Equibase and there is a Leading Progeny tab that currently shows only Cilia with her single race. Looks like you'll see only horses racing and Leading Progeny is Top 20 Progeny by Earnings so probably not as complete a list as you'd like.
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