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  • Texarkana
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    I’m surprised that there isn’t more talk about the fact that one of these microshare syndicates just won the Kentucky Derby. Most of them can’t even pay their bills.

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  • Kyrabee
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    Authentic isn’t the most aesthetically pleasing runner. High headed and crooked a lot of the time but he got to the finish line first.

    Susan

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  • Brigid
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    Originally posted by skydy View Post

    Both horses spooked. Horses do that sometimes. A broken wrist is not funny.
    Not ha-ha to the broken wrist. I've had one as well as other broken bones. I do know that horses spook; BT.

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  • Maythehorsebewithme
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    Prior to the Derby many people commented on Authentic barely lasting to win the Haskell in July and questioning his ability to do well at a mile and a quarter. I know there were questions about Mike Smith's ride in the Haskell (maybe easing off too soon) and questions about the colt looking around in the stretch, but it seems most did not think he was a mile and a quarter horse.

    I see he is a May 5th foal. He would not even have been three years old if the Derby had run on its original date. Maybe he has matured over the last few weeks, and that, coupled with the hard works he had, built up his stamina.

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  • NaturallyHappy
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    Originally posted by skydy View Post

    Or perhaps a bit stunned from the incident...
    That sure could be it.

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  • skydy
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    I had a horse that loved to be ridden. He was a spooker but he was a trier. He was one of my at home hacks, that I raised from a weanling. Such a quick learner and he seemed to find pleasure in showing how well he'd learned his stuff, his leads especially. We were hacking out one day when I asked him for a right lead canter. He began to do so quite confidently with his usual enthusiasm, and then fell flat on his face.

    I had enough time to tuck and roll over his neck/head as he went down, far enough to be out of the way, knowing he would be putting his forelegs out to rise.

    When he got up he had the same subdued expression that Thousand Words had after going up and over in the paddock. Completely different circumstances but very much the same expression. He seemed perplexed, subdued, and not quite sure what had happened.

    I can only guess why mine went down. Vet thought he may have stepped on something hard (a pebble or hard stalk?) and reacted very quickly in the field, because he was sound before and was sound, no bruising of the sole and no tenderness, after.

    Poor Thousand Words. I hope he is coping. Best healing wishes to Mr. Barnes.

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  • skydy
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    Originally posted by NaturallyHappy View Post
    Actually, Thousand Words looks surprisingly well behaved after he fell over.
    Or perhaps a bit stunned from the incident...

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  • mroades
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    Originally posted by Where'sMyWhite View Post

    FWIW, the horse that flipped in the paddock was Thousand Words and Baffert's assistant trainer Jimmy Barnes was saddling Thousand Words when the colt reared. Barnes lost his balance and landed awkwardly on his right wrist; he will have screws in wrist during surgery scheduled this week in CA.

    Both Authentic and Thousand Words are okay after yesterday. Authentic is next scheduled to run in the Preakness along with Thousand Words. Both colts will remain in KY in the D Wayne Lukas barn. Baffert will be overseeing care and will remain in KY for the upcoming sales in Lexington.

    Not sure what there is to ha-ha about. Even if one doesn't like Baffert, he get the job done. Yeah, sometimes under a post-race cloud but people keep sending their top horses to him.

    Unclear yet if Tiz the Law will head to Baltimore or not; may end up waiting until the BC Classic.

    https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...after-ky-derby

    At least now the talk of a TC winner this year is off the table so maybe for the best.

    Oh, video of Thousand Words with the 'flip' in the paddock. Doesn't look to me like he was 'crazy' until girth was being tightened and the rear looked like a reaction to that. Didn't look 'crazy' to me either before or after he reared and went over.
    I had a children's Hunter do that to me once. Old been there done that horse. In the tent aisle at WEF. It happens

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  • NaturallyHappy
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    Actually, Thousand Words looks surprisingly well behaved after he fell over.

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  • ejm
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    Originally posted by Sunflower View Post
    Oh wow, my bad, sorry, I guess I got so distracted by the variety of "horse nationalities" in that pedigree of the inauthentic Authentic, that I forgot to look at the date of birth!
    The "real" Authentic has names I am not familiar with-- I am only a casual reader of pedigrees, not a knowledgeable one, but I do find it interesting. His sire seems to have had a racing career of 6 starts-- 3 wins and 3 second places-- and is also the 2019 Leading Sire in North America and 2018 Leading Sire of Juveniles in 2018 with a stud fee of 150,000 k, up from an initial fee of 12,000 k. Now THAT is an interesting story in itself. Going to see what more I can find on the sire. https://www.pedigreequery.com/into+mischief
    https://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-.../into-mischief

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  • JanM
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    I wonder if someone had a word with the person who decided the rose blanket needed those streamers at the bottom? For a young horse, Authentic really didn't do that much when the streamers spooked him. It looks like Baffert was getting the woman next to him away from Authentic, and tripped on the grass or his foot caught, and Authentic either missed him with his rump, or just brushed him. The one I'm wondering about is the man in the gray suit that was hit solidly, went down flat, it looks like Authentic stepped over him.

    I hope the assistant that has the broken wrist heals quickly.
    Last edited by JanM; Sep. 7, 2020, 11:47 AM.

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  • skydy
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    Originally posted by Brigid View Post

    Sorry, but Ha Ha Ha wiping tears. didn't some one here say that all of Bob's horses were 'crazy in paddock' and his assistant manger got a broken wrist in the paddock with - I dont know what horse. So what new 'feed' is happening here? Just curious.
    Both horses spooked. Horses do that sometimes. A broken wrist is not funny.

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  • Where'sMyWhite
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    Originally posted by Brigid View Post
    Sorry, but Ha Ha Ha wiping tears. didn't some one here say that all of Bob's horses were 'crazy in paddock' and his assistant manger got a broken wrist in the paddock with - I dont know what horse. So what new 'feed' is happening here? Just curious.
    FWIW, the horse that flipped in the paddock was Thousand Words and Baffert's assistant trainer Jimmy Barnes was saddling Thousand Words when the colt reared. Barnes lost his balance and landed awkwardly on his right wrist; he will have screws in wrist during surgery scheduled this week in CA.

    Both Authentic and Thousand Words are okay after yesterday. Authentic is next scheduled to run in the Preakness along with Thousand Words. Both colts will remain in KY in the D Wayne Lukas barn. Baffert will be overseeing care and will remain in KY for the upcoming sales in Lexington.

    Not sure what there is to ha-ha about. Even if one doesn't like Baffert, he get the job done. Yeah, sometimes under a post-race cloud but people keep sending their top horses to him.

    Unclear yet if Tiz the Law will head to Baltimore or not; may end up waiting until the BC Classic.

    https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...after-ky-derby

    At least now the talk of a TC winner this year is off the table so maybe for the best.

    Oh, video of Thousand Words with the 'flip' in the paddock. Doesn't look to me like he was 'crazy' until girth was being tightened and the rear looked like a reaction to that. Didn't look 'crazy' to me either before or after he reared and went over.

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  • Brigid
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    Originally posted by charismaryllis View Post
    Yeah, well they were kind of crowding the horse there...
    Sorry, but Ha Ha Ha wiping tears. didn't some one here say that all of Bob's horses were 'crazy in paddock' and his assistant manger got a broken wrist in the paddock with - I dont know what horse. So what new 'feed' is happening here? Just curious.

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  • Brigid
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    Originally posted by HorsesinHaiti View Post
    Yeesh, no crowd noise but The Baffert horses are bouncing off the walls today!
    Um. Yes. What is that all about? Color me suspicious of B.B. Still ..

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  • LaurieB
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    Originally posted by Sunflower View Post
    Oh wow, my bad, sorry, I guess I got so distracted by the variety of "horse nationalities" in that pedigree of the inauthentic Authentic, that I forgot to look at the date of birth!
    The "real" Authentic has names I am not familiar with-- I am only a casual reader of pedigrees, not a knowledgeable one, but I do find it interesting. His sire seems to have had a racing career of 6 starts-- 3 wins and 3 second places-- and is also the 2019 Leading Sire in North America and 2018 Leading Sire of Juveniles in 2018 with a stud fee of 150,000 k, up from an initial fee of 12,000 k. Now THAT is an interesting story in itself. Going to see what more I can find on the sire. https://www.pedigreequery.com/into+mischief
    Into Mischief is the top U.S stallion with currently just under 12M in earnings for 2020 (a rather huge amount for a partially curtailed year). So far this year, he has sired 23 SWrs, 9 GSWrs, and 2 G1 winners.

    https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...olumn=earnings

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  • Where'sMyWhite
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    Originally posted by Pronzini View Post
    As far as critique, this looks like a milers pedigree to me. If he's getting the distance from pedigree, its in the very bottom line of it, through Wild Again and In Reality, but, if I recall correctly, they descended from milers. I suspect the old rules just don't apply as much any more.
    I remember yesterday hearing some of the TVG personalities mentioning that they were not sure if Authentic could go the 1 1/4 mile distance.

    One reason I love horse racing... you can handicap all you want using all the different strategies... equipment changes, past performance, pedigree, Thorograph, Beyer, coat color, you name it and the race still needs to be run to find out who is 'best' with the best ride and best circumstances on that day

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  • Sunflower
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    Oh wow, my bad, sorry, I guess I got so distracted by the variety of "horse nationalities" in that pedigree of the inauthentic Authentic, that I forgot to look at the date of birth!
    The "real" Authentic has names I am not familiar with-- I am only a casual reader of pedigrees, not a knowledgeable one, but I do find it interesting. His sire seems to have had a racing career of 6 starts-- 3 wins and 3 second places-- and is also the 2019 Leading Sire in North America and 2018 Leading Sire of Juveniles in 2018 with a stud fee of 150,000 k, up from an initial fee of 12,000 k. Now THAT is an interesting story in itself. Going to see what more I can find on the sire. https://www.pedigreequery.com/into+mischief

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  • Pronzini
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    Originally posted by Maythehorsebewithme View Post

    I think this is the wrong Authentic. Not the authentic Authentic.
    I think we posted at the same time

    As far as critique, this looks like a milers pedigree to me. If he's getting the distance from pedigree, its in the very bottom line of it, through Wild Again and In Reality, but, if I recall correctly, they descended from milers. I suspect the old rules just don't apply as much any more.

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  • Pronzini
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    Originally posted by Sunflower View Post
    I am just looking at Authentic's pedegree. https://www.pedigreequery.com/authentic12 I am no expert on blood lines, but I do think his look interesting, with a lot of different names from the ordinary cropping up. Lots of different "horse nationalities" showing up, including India, Ireland, Great Britain. Can anyone give a critique of the pedigree?
    Wrong Authentic. This is the right one:

    http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pe...9nAlFbpDL3c2xw

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