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    #61
    Originally posted by LaurieB View Post

    Ha ha. My BMW X5 is a 2001. I won't stop driving it until pieces start falling off of it. (Actually that's not true--I'll probably just glue them back on. ) I love my car. Don't need a new one.

    Carry on.
    Full disclosure- I have a 10 year old Honda that I still call the "new car" because my other car is a 20 year old Honda.

    Yeah I am a bigtime TB owner breeder

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      #62
      Originally posted by Where'sMyWhite View Post
      I'd like to say my minivan is old but mobility conversion dictated a new car... but 2015 Toyota Sienna that I plan on driving until *I* die of old age
      I just bought a 2013 Toyota Sienna a couple of months ago. It's the second newest car (bought a 4 year old car with my ex-) I've ever owned. Love it, it's red and had only 67,000+ miles. I actually got it 'for the dogs.'

      "Oh, sure, you may be able to take down one smurf, but mark my words: You bonk one smurf, you better be ready for a blue wave."---Bucky Katt

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        #63
        Originally posted by snaffle1987 View Post

        Agreed. But I will also note that the real problem at hand is all of the mares being sent to only a handful of stallions. These studs, especially the ones outside of KY, never receive the chance to succeed. The gene pool gets smaller every year. Then we have to look at the types of mares they receive in their books. Did they even race? Were they hard-knocking claimers with minimal wins or were they stakes winners? Part of the reason why AP's first crop has been so successful is because Coolmore vetted the type of mares he was bred to. They were only the best.

        The industry has proven that it's not interested in supporting anything less than a gleaming KY blue-blooded pedigree and a race record to match. Case in point: why did Hoppertunity end up in PA. Why was California Chrome sold to Japan so soon? And those that do go to KY to start their careers are given a very short period of time to make it big. And we are seeing them sold-off before their offspring barely hit the track. The profit was made in the first initial books of mares, stallion sold for decent funds oversees, no risk in how his offspring perform, don't end up with a dud standing in the stallion barn, farm made-out on the plus side of the financials. I cant fault them for it. But will breeders lose trust the more this becomes the norm? Those that bred to him on his last US book are the ones stuck with the devalued offspring and will struggle and often not reach a profit if they choose to sell in the sales.

        Uncaptured had a pretty decent record as a race horse. he was Canadian HOTY and his dam was 2013 Broodmare of the Year CAN. but it wasn't enough to get enough interest and his offspring haven't lit the track on fire.

        At 2: 1st Kentucky Jockey Club S.(G2,CD), Iroquois S.(G3,CD), Swynford S., Clarendon S., Vandal S.
        At 3: 1st Prince of Wales S.; 2nd Spiral S.(G3,TP), Matt Winn S.(G3,CD), Wando S.; 3rd Smarty Jones S.(G3,Prx), Delta Mile S.
        At 4: 3rd Gulfstream Park H.(G2,GP)
        Actually his stallion record is pretty decent, especially considering he stands in Florida. Sales have been good, and he bred 147 mares this year; 168, 140, and 108 mares the 3 years before. So there was plenty of interest. He had the winner of the Florida Sire Stakes this year, and even tho his first foals are only 3, he has 3% stakes winners from foals. So I would have to think that the offer was just good enough to enable the sale.

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          #64
          Originally posted by halo View Post

          Actually his stallion record is pretty decent, especially considering he stands in Florida. Sales have been good, and he bred 147 mares this year; 168, 140, and 108 mares the 3 years before. So there was plenty of interest. He had the winner of the Florida Sire Stakes this year, and even tho his first foals are only 3, he has 3% stakes winners from foals. So I would have to think that the offer was just good enough to enable the sale.
          That's what I was thinking, too. Because he was in a good place and his offspring were doing well. It's a shame for Florida to lose him.
          www.laurienberenson.com

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            #65
            Let me clear up the new car thing. It is a Subie, not an MDX or BMW or anything. Did trade in a 2001Lexus Rx 300 bought used in 2006, Low mileage though, only 193k. As a long time horse owner, have to prioritize what money goes where. Same year I bought the used Lexus, bought myself a new French saddle. Better then one fancy new car.

            Back on topic here, don’t think exporting any of these studs is exactly creating a black hole in the gene pool here. The one horse that “ disappeared” has a pretty common pedigree, average race record, was standing for 4K with blue collar progeny results...and is white. Gave me a chuckle when I googled him after reading of his “disappearance”. Given the fact SA breeders breed some pretty good sport horses, not just racers, with their TBs, it’s a good opportunity for that stud to keep a full book, live long and prosper.

            When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

            The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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              #66
              Anyone else find the Honorable Dillon thing especially amusing since one of the other stallions standing at the same farm (A Shin Forward) raced in Japan, stood there for several years and now stands in NY?

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                #67
                Just adding that I drive a 2009 Audi Q5. I intend to drive it until it falls apart. Why buy a new car when I can buy part of another horse, or pay a stud fee? Such a glamorous life ….. :-)

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                  #68
                  Authorized to Turkey per Racing Post: https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstoc...ey-club/413205

                  Myboycharlie was also purchased by the Turkish Jockey Club.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Vivace View Post
                    Authorized to Turkey per Racing Post: https://www.racingpost.com/bloodstoc...ey-club/413205

                    Myboycharlie was also purchased by the Turkish Jockey Club.
                    After standing at Haras du Logis in Normandy, France, for the last 6 years.

                    Yes, many quality bloodlines going to Turkey but the US isn't the only source.
                    Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth, And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings; John Gilliespie Magee, Jr

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                      #70
                      Epsom Derby winner Authorized is also on his way to Turkey: '

                      2007 G1 Derby scorer Authorized (Ire) (Montjeu {Ire}-Funsie {Fr}, by Saumarez {GB}) is the latest stallion on the move to Turkey for 2020, Racing Post reported on Tuesday. Purchased by the Turkish Jockey Club, the …

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                        #71
                        Boy, the money behind the Turkish Jockey Club is putting pretty good money into proven, good quality studs from multiple sources. That’s interesting but also great for the industry which is losing its luster over here in the US.
                        When opportunity knocks it's wearing overalls and looks like work.

                        The horse world. Two people. Three opinions.

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                          #72
                          As noted in post #69, Authorized was standing in Normandy, France prior to being sold to Turkish Jockey Club.
                          Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth, And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings; John Gilliespie Magee, Jr

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