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  • #61
    Originally posted by Palm Beach View Post

    Are you aware of the substantial decline in TB foal crops over the past 20 years? Maybe 30 years? It’s hardly a thriving industry.
    What you've experienced in the TB world is no worse than what we've experienced in the SB world. Honestly you guys probably even have it a bit better.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Palm Beach View Post

      Are you aware of the substantial decline in TB foal crops over the past 20 years? Maybe 30 years? It’s hardly a thriving industry.
      Make that 10 years. The foal crop dropped 40% between 2008 and 2018.
      www.laurienberenson.com

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Standard Bread View Post

        What you've experienced in the TB world is no worse than what we've experienced in the SB world. Honestly you guys probably even have it a bit better.
        I'm sure we have it better, mostly because of way more deep, deep pocketed owners, a global industry and a much much better purse structure.
        "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in a confederacy against him."

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        • #64
          Id like to revisit the idea that limiting stallions books is about genetic diversity. When you are talking about foal crops of 20,000 (and growing less all the time) how is limiting books going to help, when a stallion like Tapit will likely have 40 (or more) sons at stud next year, many breeding big books of mares, not to mention the fact that every single Tapit mare with ovaries will be bred. Its not inconceivable that there could be 3500 Tapit foals and grandkids in a single year. How is that helping diversity. Whats next with the JC, only allowing 10 sons of a stallion to be able to stand at stud? And if they are all about diversity, why are they limiting the very stallions that are helping genetic diversity, the Uncle Mos, the Into Mischiefs, the Candy Rides, the Ghostzappers. I think their definition of "genetic diversity" and mine is very different. Maybe "monetary diversity" is what they actually mean.

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          • #65
            So just to check real numbers, I looked up 2018 statistics. Tapit and his sons bred 1872 mares, of only 3 bred over 140. In 2019 grade 1 winner Tapwrit was added to the mix (dont have 2019 numbers yet), and still racing are graded stakes winners New York Central, Synchrony, Marconi, Souper Tapit, Tacitus, Rotation, and Kingly, all of which should find a spot on a breeding farm. Hows that genetic diversity working out?

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            • #66
              halo please write those two posts in a letter to TDN. They are looking for comments on this issue and yours address the problem with the limiting stallions books better than most that they have printed.
              www.laurienberenson.com

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              • #67
                Originally posted by halo View Post
                So just to check real numbers, I looked up 2018 statistics. Tapit and his sons bred 1872 mares, of only 3 bred over 140. In 2019 grade 1 winner Tapwrit was added to the mix (dont have 2019 numbers yet), and still racing are graded stakes winners New York Central, Synchrony, Marconi, Souper Tapit, Tacitus, Rotation, and Kingly, all of which should find a spot on a breeding farm. Hows that genetic diversity working out?
                It will ebb and flow. Remember when there were dozens of Storm Cat sons at stud? And grandsons? And mares? Most of them fell by the wayside and only the best ones remained (GC, Stormy Atlantic, etc). Unless all those Tapit sons hit it big (highly unlikely) the Tapit influence will moderate in the next decade, just like Storm Cat did. I think it's a net positive that all those Tapit sons could be limited to 140 instead of 200+.
                A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it.
                ? Albert Einstein

                ~AJ~

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by LaurieB View Post
                  halo please write those two posts in a letter to TDN. They are looking for comments on this issue and yours address the problem with the limiting stallions books better than most that they have printed.
                  oh just plagiarize it and send it in...
                  "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in a confederacy against him."

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Palm Beach View Post

                    oh just plagiarize it and send it in...
                    Halo is very capable of speaking for herself.
                    www.laurienberenson.com

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by EventerAJ View Post

                      It will ebb and flow. Remember when there were dozens of Storm Cat sons at stud? And grandsons? And mares? Most of them fell by the wayside and only the best ones remained (GC, Stormy Atlantic, etc). Unless all those Tapit sons hit it big (highly unlikely) the Tapit influence will moderate in the next decade, just like Storm Cat did. I think it's a net positive that all those Tapit sons could be limited to 140 instead of 200+.
                      Except that those Storm Cat sons werent breeding 200 mare books. Dont forget the new rules will allow new sires to breed unlimited books, and you can be sure those stud farms will insure those new sires will get the biggest books they can. I still think their argument of genetic diversity is a total joke. Its all about money.

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