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  • #41


    Other that the 'coincidence' of horses being horses in two very visible to the public on TV races, IMO, nothing to see here, move along.

    Maximum Security drifted, was DQd and set down behind the last horse he was deemed to have interfered with.

    Bodexpress bucked coming out of the gate and was not ruled a non-started.

    Both situations happen in racing, it's just that the majority of the time, no one other than people watching the track feeds or in person, ever see either case.
    Maybe the reason I love animals so much is because the only time they have broken my heart is when they've crossed that rainbow bridge

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    • #42
      The outrider who caught Bodexpress speaks:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FBKRo15efM

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Joanne View Post
        The outrider who caught Bodexpress speaks:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FBKRo15efM
        Wow! I had no idea how it ended, with him in the middle of the scene with the horses coming back, people on foot, etc.

        Awesome horseperson!

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Joanne View Post
          The outrider who caught Bodexpress speaks:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FBKRo15efM
          Great video!!! Glad she was able to get him safely and her horse certainly is handy!
          Kick On

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Maythehorsebewithme View Post

            Wow! I had no idea how it ended, with him in the middle of the scene with the horses coming back, people on foot, etc.

            Awesome horseperson!
            Exactly, people really don't understand how dangerous a loose horse can be. Tabasco Cat ruined Jeff Lukas' life.
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            • #46
              Originally posted by Palm Beach View Post

              Exactly, people really don't understand how dangerous a loose horse can be. Tabasco Cat ruined Jeff Lukas' life.
              A 1200 lb unguided missle!

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                #47
                Um. Was Bode-horse (can't see or recall full name.Sorry!) was he really a maiden?
                Who the fried fritters put a maiden horse in the Preakness?

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                • #48
                  Yes, he was a maiden.

                  Although maidens have actually won classic races before. Most notably Sir Barton, first Triple Crown winner, who never won a race prior to his Derby. He was supposed to be the rabbit for his stablemate in the Derby, but he never stopped. He then won the Preakness only four days later, with shipping in between, AND had a workout in between over the Pimlico track to get used to it, too. They don't make 'em like they used to.
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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Brigid View Post
                    Um. Was Bode-horse (can't see or recall full name.Sorry!) was he really a maiden?
                    Who the fried fritters put a maiden horse in the Preakness?
                    The Preakness was Bodexpress's 7th race and 3rd G1. After running in 4 MSWs, he ran in the Florida Derby and Kentucky Derby before trying his 'hat' in the Preakness.
                    Maybe the reason I love animals so much is because the only time they have broken my heart is when they've crossed that rainbow bridge

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                    • #50
                      FWIW, today (5/23) in Race 2 (Maiden Claiming) at Penn National, the 3 horse, Bayside, refused to break. Penn National had a head-on and pan view.

                      I felt bad for the jock as he's kicking and smacking Bayside and the horse is just standing in the gate with the gate doors open. Everyone else is running down the track. Jock finally gets Bayside moving and goes about a furlong at a leisurely canter.

                      Bayside is a 2015 model with 3 races this year under his belt. Horses just sometimes don't do what you want them to.
                      Maybe the reason I love animals so much is because the only time they have broken my heart is when they've crossed that rainbow bridge

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                      • #51
                        Do you think that Bayside was trying to tell his trainer something??? (wink)

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                        • #52
                          One of the times I was at Oaklawn for the Ark Derby, one horse did that. Not in the Derby itself but an undercard race. Just stood there. The horse had won recently, too. The announcer said that the stewards had checked to make sure no gate malfunction, but the gate opened fine, so no refunds on that horse. He just didn't want to play that day. Guy near me had bet on that horse and was ticked.
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                          • #53
                            Originally posted by dressagetraks View Post
                            Yes, he was a maiden.

                            Although maidens have actually won classic races before. Most notably Sir Barton, first Triple Crown winner, who never won a race prior to his Derby. He was supposed to be the rabbit for his stablemate in the Derby, but he never stopped. He then won the Preakness only four days later, with shipping in between, AND had a workout in between over the Pimlico track to get used to it, too. They don't make 'em like they used to.
                            Must be some better examples then something from 140? years ago...the rules they ran under and their enforcement was quite different then today. As was the general public’s feelings about animal welfare in general.
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                            • #54
                              Originally posted by findeight View Post

                              Must be some better examples then something from 140? years ago...the rules they ran under and their enforcement was quite different then today. As was the general public’s feelings about animal welfare in general.
                              Sir Barton is a lousy example as history reports him as running “coked to the eyeballs” due to shelly feet.

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                              • #55
                                A late PS. In racing, a maiden is a horse that hasn't won, not a horse that hasn't raced (a clarification just in case ).
                                Maybe the reason I love animals so much is because the only time they have broken my heart is when they've crossed that rainbow bridge

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                                • #56
                                  Originally posted by findeight View Post

                                  Must be some better examples then something from 140? years ago...the rules they ran under and their enforcement was quite different then today. As was the general public’s feelings about animal welfare in general.
                                  Sir Barton won the Triple Crown in 1919, so 100, not 140 years ago. If you want to know about racing in that era, read the Blister Jones stories. Warning they were written in the early 1900s so not politically correct but great horse racing stories.

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                                  • #57
                                    I believe the only other maiden to win the Derby was Brokers Tip in 1933. Like Sir Barton, his owner entered him as a pacemaker for the more highly regarded Head Play.

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                                      #58
                                      Originally posted by Where'sMyWhite View Post
                                      The Preakness was 's 7th race and 3rd G1. After running in 4 MSWs, he ran in the Florida Derby and Kentucky Derby before trying his 'hat' in the Preakness.
                                      Thank for the clarification.
                                      I read on 'pedigreequery.com' That he'd had a 2nd in FL derby. Yes, I am aware that PQ-online is not so reliable.
                                      But I don't know of any other TB pedigree and race records sites.

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                                      • #59
                                        Originally posted by Brigid View Post
                                        But I don't know of any other TB pedigree and race records sites.
                                        For TBs, I use http://www.equibase.com

                                        Race entries, results, limited pedigree IIRC for free. Plus I use their 'virtual stable' feature.
                                        Maybe the reason I love animals so much is because the only time they have broken my heart is when they've crossed that rainbow bridge

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                                        • #60
                                          Originally posted by Mara View Post
                                          I believe the only other maiden to win the Derby was Brokers Tip in 1933. Like Sir Barton, his owner entered him as a pacemaker for the more highly regarded Head Play.
                                          And Aristides was sent out as the "rabbit" to the favorite Chesapeake.
                                          Rack on!

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