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1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.
This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.
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2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.
3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.
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Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.
Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.
Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:
Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.
Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.
Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.
Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.
Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.
Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.
Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.
5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.
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Gosh. My horse apparently uses both sides of his brain at the same time. How in the world do you ever deal with something like that??www.specialhorses.org
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Definiitely NOT defending Parelli or what he did...BUT, how do you guys know that they hadn't already given the horse a thorough vet/dental exam????Originally posted by kaluha2 View PostGrataan said:
"F****** idiots. I wonder if anyone bothered to, you know, CHECK the horses EARS for, I don't know, AURAL PLAQUES or SARCOIDS."
Exactly!!! PP and now RW---what a couple of dumbasses.
My mare was flipping herself over to NOT be bridled. Called the vet---she had ticks in her ears and an infection.
Do hope that they checked into this before terrorizing some poor horse.
These people are absolute morons and now RW is drinking the koolaid right along with a few others that I thought would know better.
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I understand a juniper and red wine vinegar marinade turned once a day for five days does a good job...325F oven for 5 hours and a gingersnap sauce as a topperOriginally posted by DressageGeek "Ribbon Ho" View PostGosh. My horse apparently uses both sides of his brain at the same time. How in the world do you ever deal with something like that??
that'll fix um
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Originally posted by katarine View Postit didn't hurt CA one IOTA when he badgered a colt he described as destined to be a delightful ladies or child's horse, just a good boy...into coming after him, teeth bared and going for it- when he turned his back. Not. One. BIT. He lost that RTTH to Chris Cox, whose body language indicated for the entirety of the event, that he wouldn't pee on CA if he was on fire. Just sayin'.














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Oh wait..the troll is here to stir the pot. I guess cutting horses/reining horses, hunters, jumpers...none of those horses EVER need any type of joint injections...just those evil, nasty dressage women do those horrible things.Originally posted by Blue Domino View PostParelli did what he did in broad day light for everybody to see. He didn't hurt
the stallion and stopped to take it up another day.
What's horrible and frightening is what dressage queens do in the dark in the absence of art.
Dressage horses who need injection in their crippled hocks. That's what's sad.
Veterinarians are getting rich on treating dressage horses crippled by
dressage queens.
They're not getting rich off Parelli and his students.
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yes, it's anthropomorphizing phrased that way. Next thing you know, the horse will be a Libra and as such can only have a purple carrot stick and must be whispered to only in its left ear.Originally posted by CR Gorge Girl View PostSomething wrong with this? The person is just saying that she/he has two horses that are polar opposites that she's working with at the same time..
In that case it would be highly athletic horse, lots of energy, bit of a bully and the horse who is more timid and fearful.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You can't have everything. Where would you put it all?
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Originally posted by CR Gorge Girl View PostSomething wrong with this? The person is just saying that she/he has two horses that are polar opposites that she's working with at the same time..
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That's not what I hear that person saying.
I'm not ignoring the rules. I'm interpreting the rules. Tamal, The Great British Baking Show
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I'm trying to envision a horse taking the MBTI LOL! Next, we'll be assigning them with IQ's!Originally posted by Adelita View Postyes, it's anthropomorphizing phrased that way. Next thing you know, the horse will be a Libra and as such can only have a purple carrot stick and must be whispered to only in its left ear.
I used to use honey on the bit when I wanted to soften a mouth - perhaps Mr. SupposedlySmartPro could have done something similar? I hate thinking that us amateurs are more intelligent regarding basic training issues, but it does sure appear that way in this instance.Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people.
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So, you go by the philosophy that two wrongs make a right? Excellent.Originally posted by Blue Domino View PostParelli did what he did in broad day light for everybody to see. He didn't hurt
the stallion and stopped to take it up another day.
What's horrible and frightening is what dressage queens do in the dark in the absence of art.
Dressage horses who need injection in their crippled hocks. That's what's sad.
Veterinarians are getting rich on treating dressage horses crippled by
dressage queens.
They're not getting rich off Parelli and his students.
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I would not call Parelli a professional horseman. He reminds me more of a circus performer than of anything else. Lights, music, rings - all we need is a big top. Lord knows we already have the clowns.I'm not ignoring the rules. I'm interpreting the rules. Tamal, The Great British Baking Show
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"Definiitely NOT defending Parelli or what he did...BUT, how do you guys know that they hadn't already given the horse a thorough vet/dental exam????"
We don't dalpal but here's the thing---if the horse was/was not having ear/teeth trouble the fact remains that Robert Whitaker is suppose to be a pro. He had this horse for 8 weeks and HE (the pro) couldn't fix a head shy problem???? And out of desperation he had pp do it for him? I think these two will make great business partners. Now all they have to do is bring out the cradle bridle.
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I'm telling you it was HIGH sterical to watch CC make fun of CA. The looks, the shaking his head, the about to have a good moment with his colt when CRACK goes the Aussie's (insert stupid noise attention getter here).Originally posted by dalpal View Post















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I want to smack the people who commented on the P's FB. Thank goodness for Parelli? The horses must be so grateful? Are you KIDDING me??? I'd almost be willing to let PP mess around with my mare.. she'd kill him if he tried terrorizing her like that. But I wouldn't want her to pull a muscle kicking him, so I'll have to resist the temptation.
Those frauds ought to be shot for the horrible abuses they force horses to endure, all in the name of "natural" horsemanship.Against My Better Judgement: A blog about my new FLF OTTB
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Elsbells description in H&H and Parelli's spin on it and the edited video where we don't see the bridle being put on makes me think that someone has not got the story straight. It is quite amazing how a well worded spin can make even horrific events sound acceptable and normal....they can justify anything. Those English - suckers.Proud member of People Who Hate to Kill Wildlife clique
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One of the Pasos I trim had been severely mishandled by a farrier and it ruined her for good. He tied a leg up and the owner said the mare ran for 45 minutes on 3 legs until she went through a fence. To this day the mare is a total freak about picking up her feet. It takes an hour and a WHOLE bunch of carrots to trim her.
I'm all for a good come to Jesus session when it's warranted but terrifying an already distrustful horse is NOT the proper way to train.
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