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  • #21
    Originally posted by Grataan View Post
    And to think these people are allowed to procreate.
    To be loved by a horse should fill us with awe, for we hath not deserved it.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Grataan View Post
      They're like zombies, kool-aid drinking zombies.

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      • #23
        Words cannot describe the loathing I feel for those two MORONS....

        May they get what is coming to them before they ruin any more horses.
        Originally posted by yellowbritches
        Suck it up, buttercup. Horses spook. Sometimes they spook to the point of losing the event.

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        • #24
          Just so you know, not all the parelli people think this is more rainbows and sunshine. I'm reading the thread about it on the savvyclub site, and there are people going.. "What!?!?"

          I do parelli, not super serious about it, but it can be fun and good for solving issues. But I also don't see Pat as the all-knowing messiah, because he's not, no one is. And I know that the last thing you should for a hard to bridle horse is force it. There's a lesson horse that's used for our IHSA team, and she can get VERY hard to bridle because people do it wrong and force her. But if you take your time and do it the way she wants it done, it's a non issue. When I bought my appendix, he wouldn't even lower his head for the halter, and really did not want the bridle on. So I worked with him everyday for 10-15 and in not too long, he was willing and lowered his head for the bridle.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by MistyBlue View Post
            Parellis are ideal shysters for the equine enthusiasts out there who are lot more enthusiastic, impressionable than they are intelligent and mature.
            On behalf of all the Professional Brothers and Sisters of Attorney Scheisser I take offense at being lumped in with the Parellis. Such an association is clearly libelous.

            But, if you insist, maybe we could apply the following to the an unnamed class of followers of an unnamed trainer:

            Ignorant blackguards, illiterate blockheads, besotted drunkards, drivelling simpletons, ci-devant mountebanks, vagabonds, swindlers and thieves make up, with but few exceptions, the disgraceful gang of pettifoggers who swarm about its halls.

            The above is from an edition of The Subterranian, a New York newspaper, 1843-1846.

            So much for the theory that journalism used to be more "polite."

            G.
            Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

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            • #26
              I imagine there are some horses that could take longer to teach, but my guy wouldn't let me touch his right ear and was hard to bridle when I got him, and I just worked on touching him around his ears every day, and within a week he was enjoying ear scratches and opening his mouth to help put the bridle on. Never needed any force at all. But he's got a good attitude. I imagine a tougher, older horse might need a while longer or longer sessions. Or if a horse's reaction to being touched was aggressive, like striking at the handler or something, then you might need to get a little sharp to be clear that that isn't permitted. Still, I hate seeing "trainers" try to force these issues into public demos, because they often try to rush things to make the point and fit the schedule, rather than taking their time (which might be pretty boring for the audience).

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              • #27
                Dear God.
                What a schmuck.
                "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                • #28
                  The Road to the Horse is an event where they run some untouched 3 year olds in an arena and three clinicians pick each one and have three hours that day and three more the next day to handle, saddle, ride and go thru and obstacle course.

                  In 2011 it will be Pat Parelli, Clinton Anderson and Chris Cox, I think.

                  I wonder if PP really thinks he is up to that, or if RRTH and PP are both using that for publicity, but in the last minute they will have someone other than PP in his place?

                  I can't imagine he will do that well, for several reasons and he has way more to lose if he doesn't, I would think.

                  You can talk yourself out of some training troubles like the infamous LP video, or this here, but you can't from several hours of mishaps, maybe flat out mistakes and compared, side to side, with others that have done that before and shown they can do it and well.

                  It will be interesting to see what happens, will it.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Bluey View Post
                    The Road to the Horse is an event where they run some untouched 3 year olds in an arena and three clinicians pick each one and have three hours that day and three more the next day to handle, saddle, ride and go thru and obstacle course.

                    In 2011 it will be Pat Parelli, Clinton Anderson and Chris Cox, I think.

                    I wonder if PP really thinks he is up to that, or if RRTH and PP are both using that for publicity, but in the last minute they will have someone other than PP in his place?

                    I can't imagine he will do that well, for several reasons and he has way more to lose if he doesn't, I would think.

                    You can talk yourself out of some training troubles like the infamous LP video, or this here, but you can't from several hours of mishaps, maybe flat out mistakes and compared, side to side, with others that have done that before and shown they can do it and well.

                    It will be interesting to see what happens, will it.
                    I've seen a couple of these type of events, which can be very interesting, and what I love to see is the occasional trainer who doesn't worry if the horse isn't "done" in the time allotted. They just get done what the horse is ready to learn, and set them up for a future life with further training, but don't try to force things along faster than the individual horse can understand. Some horses are very easy, tolerant and cooperative, others more suspicious, independent or shy. A good trainer listens to that and helps them out.

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                    • #30
                      On behalf of all the Professional Brothers and Sisters of Attorney Scheisser I take offense at being lumped in with the Parellis. Such an association is clearly libelous.

                      But, if you insist, maybe we could apply the following to the an unnamed class of followers of an unnamed trainer:

                      Ignorant blackguards, illiterate blockheads, besotted drunkards, drivelling simpletons, ci-devant mountebanks, vagabonds, swindlers and thieves make up, with but few exceptions, the disgraceful gang of pettifoggers who swarm about its halls.
                      Ah, well any single one of those will do nicely thank you!
                      You jump in the saddle,
                      Hold onto the bridle!
                      Jump in the line!
                      ...Belefonte

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by randomequine View Post
                        And to think these people are allowed to procreate.
                        And vote.

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                        • #32
                          What a f***ing tool. Idiots.

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                          • #33
                            http://www.youtube.com/user/ParelliT.../0/8j25pS6ixWk

                            obviously edited, but the bridling seems to be going well.

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                            • #34
                              Grataan said:

                              "F****** idiots. I wonder if anyone bothered to, you know, CHECK the horses EARS for, I don't know, AURAL PLAQUES or SARCOIDS."

                              Exactly!!! PP and now RW---what a couple of dumbasses.

                              My mare was flipping herself over to NOT be bridled. Called the vet---she had ticks in her ears and an infection.

                              Do hope that they checked into this before terrorizing some poor horse.

                              These people are absolute morons and now RW is drinking the koolaid right along with a few others that I thought would know better.

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                              • #35
                                My brain hurts. PP really makes my brain hurt.
                                www.specialhorses.org
                                a 501(c)3 organization helping 501(c)3 equine rescues

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                                • #36
                                  OK I just saw the video and PP wasn't doing anything special---no magic--no hokus pokus, just usual gain trust, rub head ears yata yata. And people pay how much for this normal stuff??? What a bunch of morons.

                                  And Robert: Do you mean to tell us that with all your years with horses that you have never figure this out all by yourself???? Have you been living under a rock or something. For God's Sake. I thought you were suppose to be a professional.

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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by kaluha2 View Post
                                    OK I just saw the video and PP wasn't doing anything special---no magic--no hokus pokus, just usual gain trust, rub head ears yata yata. And people pay how much for this normal stuff??? What a bunch of morons.

                                    And Robert: Do you mean to tell us that with all your years with horses that you have never figure this out all by yourself???? Have you been living under a rock or something. For God's Sake. I thought you were suppose to be a professional.
                                    I believe day 1 was in excess of 2 hours long.
                                    The video showed what, 5 seconds?
                                    "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                                    ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                                    • #38
                                      Originally posted by Ghazzu View Post
                                      I believe day 1 was in excess of 2 hours long.
                                      The video showed what, 5 seconds?
                                      exactly...and it showed none of the actual bridling taking place in session 1, which is when the abuse allegedly took place...conveniently left that part out of the PR vid huh?
                                      My mare wonders about all this fuss about birth control when she's only seen a handful of testicles in her entire life. Living with an intact male of my species, I feel differently! WAYSIDE

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                                      • #39
                                        Training "difficult" horses in front of an audience within an allotted time is a recipe for disaster no matter who the clinician. Training requires patience and thought....and no time line.

                                        It is bound to happen that even a good trainer can feel the pressure of time contraints and start looking for quick fixes to reinforce their appearance of brilliance.

                                        Sometimes I think horses are sent to those clinics to be sacrificed; with the hope being that they will either be fixed or be the one to show the clinician up...
                                        Freeing worms from cans everywhere!

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                                        • #40
                                          I somehow managed to make it through the entire thread on the UK board.

                                          The general agreement among those who actually attended the event was that the first session lasted well into two hours. That was also when the twitching and hobbling occured, too. . .which I find interesting considering that there are only five seconds worth of Day 1 footage on the video. . .just showing the horse balking when that mustachioed bulk of a man approached it head on and tried to touch its ears.

                                          Of course, as it often happens with Parellites, one person on the forum wanted to clarify that PP did not use a "twitch."

                                          He used a "calmer." It was still used on the horse's gumline. . .but it wasn't a twitch.

                                          Because, you know, twitches are what abusive, predatory, non Kool-Aid-drinking unenlightened people use on their horses.

                                          Perhaps an unedited video will be made available to those Lifetime Savvy Club members. . .it will be an inflight-movie when the mothership comes to pick them up and take them all home.
                                          Please copy and paste this to your signature if you know someone, or have been affected by someone who needs a smack upside the head. Lets raise awareness.

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