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  • #41
    Originally posted by PeteyPie View Post
    Maine is not missing, it's still just east of New Hampshire.
    Lol

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Xana View Post

      Canada took it!
      Canada can have it for the next few months--at least through the black fly season!
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      • #43
        Originally posted by Scribbler View Post
        Horses get shot for various reasons.

        Accidentally by dimwitted hunters.

        On purpose randomly by psychopaths.

        On purpose targeted by people who have a grudge against the owners.

        By the owners for euthanasia.

        This does seem like a very deliberate killing, not something that went astray from a rifle aiming at a deer.

        In general for stories of crime and victimhood, I like to see a corroborating story that includes a comment from the investigation police. In most parts of the country the killing of a pet horse is news enough that the police will investigate and be willing to comment. Especially Florida which had a couple of high profile horse killings in the past couple of years.

        Of course these days "victim has a Go Fund Me account" can be a standalone news story.

        But I like to see the original news story, "police in whatsit county are investigating the death of ....."

        if there was a police investigation I am sure the first step would be to dig out the bullet which would prove the kind of gun.

        I also don't however quite follow the frantic interest of the houseguests or greenies who want to bring this to our attention and see all kinds of other mistreatment implied.

        This is not a horse that shows any signs of mistreatment beyond being shot between the eyes.

        I am interested in the capability of internet and FB for creating and perpetuating scams, particularly in the horse world. I have no idea if this is one or not. In general, I want proof something *is* real and not a scam before I would believe it.

        As far as scam, meaning really that there is more (or less) to this story than is being said on the social media posts:

        Horse might or might not belong to the GMF/ FB people who posted this.
        Horse might have been euthanized.
        Horse might have been shot by someone with a grudge against owners (and owners have a good idea who).
        Horse might have been shot by a random psychopath (and owners have a good idea who).
        Horse might not have been shot, it might be asleep with stage makeup on.

        If it's true, eventually there will be corroborating evidence.

        If it's not true, then a few people will donate and eventually it will fade away, only to reappear on FB in three years.
        Very well said, obviously I didn't say the things I wanted to say, or didn't say them right.....the whole thing felt sketchy to me...I'm a horse lover and proud owner of many beautiful horses me and my family work hard, growing clean alfalfa & w. Clover Baik our own hay to make sure they have the best...if this happened to my daughter's pony or any of my older daughter's babies. They would be devastated!!! I'm very sorry about my broken , in thought out posts here not sure if I could delete them...this horse didn't look abused...ha e a great evening community...

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        • #44
          One of my friends lived on 80 acres back in the timber, think lots of elk. She had so much trouble with hunters, by the end of the hunting season she was on a first name basis with all the local troopers. She had no hunting/no trespassing signs on the fence every 100 feet. The second year one of her horses was shot, she knew it was one of the hunters. They would sit parked on the road watching the elk, sometimes they would shoot and bang cans to try to scare the herd off her property. It got to the point she had to hire a farm sitter when she went to work, that cost her twenty bucks a day.

          By the fifth year she gave up and moved. It was a beautiful property in the mountains east of Portland and the lease price was so reasonable. But hunters can be absolute freaks to deal with when they get a hard on over an elk.
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          • #45
            Originally posted by Sugarwells View Post

            I all fairness, you are only 2 weeks behind in your membership to COTH.
            Posting a story that you haven't gathered many important facts on. Newb or no newb. The Gofundme screams bullshit. Well that and the facts of the case.
            I thought that also sugarwells...seemed sketchy, to push that story here in the forum, without all details..has Xana. Made other posts??

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              #46
              Originally posted by Truthseeker View Post

              I thought that also sugarwells...seemed sketchy, to push that story here in the forum, without all details..has Xana. Made other posts??
              More than you.

              But I have no dog - or pony - in the fight.
              the forum is big, somebody might have an idea, if they are in the general area.

              Your presence made light of an otherwise serious topic though.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Scribbler View Post
                Horses get shot for various reasons.

                Accidentally by dimwitted hunters.

                On purpose randomly by psychopaths.

                On purpose targeted by people who have a grudge against the owners.

                By the owners for euthanasia.

                This does seem like a very deliberate killing, not something that went astray from a rifle aiming at a deer.

                In general for stories of crime and victimhood, I like to see a corroborating story that includes a comment from the investigation police. In most parts of the country the killing of a pet horse is news enough that the police will investigate and be willing to comment. Especially Florida which had a couple of high profile horse killings in the past couple of years.

                Of course these days "victim has a Go Fund Me account" can be a standalone news story.

                But I like to see the original news story, "police in whatsit county are investigating the death of ....."

                if there was a police investigation I am sure the first step would be to dig out the bullet which would prove the kind of gun.

                I also don't however quite follow the frantic interest of the houseguests or greenies who want to bring this to our attention and see all kinds of other mistreatment implied.

                This is not a horse that shows any signs of mistreatment beyond being shot between the eyes.

                I am interested in the capability of internet and FB for creating and perpetuating scams, particularly in the horse world. I have no idea if this is one or not. In general, I want proof something *is* real and not a scam before I would believe it.

                As far as scam, meaning really that there is more (or less) to this story than is being said on the social media posts:

                Horse might or might not belong to the GMF/ FB people who posted this.
                Horse might have been euthanized.
                Horse might have been shot by someone with a grudge against owners (and owners have a good idea who).
                Horse might have been shot by a random psychopath (and owners have a good idea who).
                Horse might not have been shot, it might be asleep with stage makeup on.

                If it's true, eventually there will be corroborating evidence.

                If it's not true, then a few people will donate and eventually it will fade away, only to reappear on FB in three years.
                The frantic interest greenie Is a: horse lover- owner, with ranch 7 horses & grandchampion pony that my 5 yo adores -father of two daughters being the backbone of the 4h, in this community also thousands of miles away from florida....with no contact or connection with this random act of what ever is going on...I understand I ran my mouth stupidly...I hope justice is served cause it's just wrong..

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by rockonxox View Post

                  Here you'll get the media's line of "police are investigating" and "call the tips hotline" and not any actual direct quotes from law enforcement. I know at least one of the incidents here the story was pretty much dropped after the initial reporting because a) public interest dwindled out and b) it was a juvenile who committed the act so no names and most info that the public was interested in wasn't going to be released until post adjudication -- and by then it really had dwindled out and no media picked up the story.

                  I am confused. Are you saying that the police have found the killer OR that might be one possibility of an eventual outcome? Perhaps it is the use of "and" instead of "or" which confuses me.
                  "He lives in a cocoon of solipsism"

                  Charles Krauthammer speaking about Trump

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Lord Helpus View Post


                    I am confused. Are you saying that the police have found the killer OR that might be one possibility of an eventual outcome? Perhaps it is the use of "and" instead of "or" which confuses me.
                    In the stabbing case that happened years ago yes they did find the individual that stabbed dozens of horses and it was a juvenile, the name was never reported (over a year between the initial news story that came out and adjudication) and there were no further media stories because there is so much that goes on in this city that everyone moved on to the next story... so in this case it was a AND b I only knew of the result of that case because of my job working with juveniles at the time.

                    For the more recent shooting that happened in early 2017 that lead to the death of a child's horse in this area all that has been released was a video from a neighbors home. Nothing has become of that. I'm not at the same job and am now just a member of the general public so not sure if we'll ever hear about that.

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                    • #50
                      The GoFundMe page confuses me. My old mare was killed by the local Amish Mafia (really, she was; I'm not kidding or making it up). I didn't start a GFM page & definitely had no need for $25K.

                      I take that back. I could always use $25K, but the death of my horse resulted a few hundred dollars in extra expenses, not 10s of thousands.
                      Visit my Spoonflower shop

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                        #51
                        I am not faulting people for making it interesting to snitch on your kin.

                        I think they offered to donate the money to hurricane relief if no perpetrator is caught.

                        If you don't agree, don't contribute.

                        But since I am not in that state, have not part in the drama.....
                        I figured, you know, share with a forum full of horse people....

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