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  • #181
    More examples of not being treated equal.
    Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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    • #182
      county... I give. You win. I'm off to see if TomKat needs any pre-marital counseling.

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      • #183
        I'll be honest I have no clue what your talking about.
        Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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        • #184
          I had to chuckle at the last couple of posts!
          Too funny.

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          • #185
            Made me scratch my head.
            Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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            • #186
              county, I guess I have a strange sense of humor. I know we have bumped heads on some threads, but I agree with you on some points. I have a picture of you in my mind as a middle aged, down to earth person, that just kind of goes about his business and isn't in to trends and celebrity hype.
              The post that referred to TomKat, is referring to actors Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes who are engaged, and are now referred to as a single entity...ie TomKat. They are strange.
              I laughed at the picture of you and Xegeba having this intelligent debate, and being on track on the same issue (albeit on different sides), and all of a sudden she threw out the Tomkat remark and it was like I could picture this image of the cultural gap/great divide/hitting the wall so to speak, of you and Xegeba. I just pictured you sitting there going "What the heck is a TomKat?" The result of two different worlds. I don't know, it's hard to explain, but it just tickled me. And by saying that I mean no disrespect to either of you, it was more the "screaching of the brakes, slamming into the wall dividing the generations" type of thing.

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              • #187
                Yep that describes very well what I was thinking I had no clue who or what Tomkat was or is. I'm not into the Hollywood thing at all the last movie I went to was " Jaws "
                Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                • #188
                  I didn't get the TomKat remark either. For a second I thought Tom King's (who posts on this BB), was having marriage problems.

                  Does that make us old farts? I always wanted to be an old fart. I crocheted my own shawl to keep me warm while I crochet more shawls. Yep - guess I'm officially over the hill.

                  Sometimes I think the reason we argue so much about slaughter is not because one side is evil and the other isn't - but many folks are very young and haven't had a broad range of experiences, and/or that there are so many people on this BB that have little to no first hand experience about farming and food production. It's a whole different world and most people in the US just see the end product. It's hard to see other people's perspective if there is no common frame of reference.

                  That isn't meant to insult anyone at all. Based on what I read on this BB (which is the only one I post on) - I've gotten that impression. We are all horse lovers - we just live in different worlds.

                  FYI - for anyone that wants to know why guns aren't used in the slaughter houses - it's dangerous. The captive bolt was designed to produce the same effect as a firearm - without the risk of ricochet, accidental discharge, improper use, criminal acts, etc.

                  I'd rather be killed by the captive bolt method than by Kosher or Hallal. But God forbid anyone try to stop those methods.

                  I don't see any evidence that anyone is saying that current methods, including welfare and transport - is acceptable. For any species. While some of us may focus on stopping it altogether, others focus on welfare, transport and other issues - to improve them to the extent possible.

                  A lot of the horrors we see before any species arrives at the abattoir is the result of areas of government not having the will to enforce existing laws. The laws are there. If they were obeyed - welfare would be drastically improved. That means from the locality where the neglected/abused animal lives, to the acution, to the kill pen, to the feedlot, to the abattoir. Each step in that final journey is provided for in various local, state and federal law. The will to enforce them and prosecute offenders is just not there.

                  Another thing to consider is the USDA inspectors. The USDA has a budget. It's already stretched thin. There are other federal laws being pushed through Congress that would not add inspectors - but require inspectors to perform other functions. No funding, of course - just the requirement.

                  Whether we agree with the other laws is not the point. The USDA has a finite amount of resources - and adding responsibilities without adding money is going to be a problem. Not only for horses - but for all domestic species; including dogs and cats. The USDA has PAWS and NAIS (in whatever form it turns out to be) to contend with. And this agency isn't going to get the resources it needs. So things are going to fall through the cracks. Horses will be one of them, I'm afraid.
                  Brothers and sisters, I bid you beware
                  Of giving your heart to a dog to tear.
                  -Rudyard Kipling

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                  • #189
                    Very true J Swan as you mentioned before pretty much everyone in this country feels its there God given right to have cheap food. I've also noticed they expect cheap taxes in order to have those two things it comes with a price somewhere else. Until people put their money where their mouth is things will not change.
                    Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                    • #190
                      I should say their money and their votes
                      Quality doesn\'t cost it pays.

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                      • #191
                        I was lost on the TomKat thing, too.

                        County, and JSwan, I think you both make some very good points.
                        LESS HARD WORK, MORE FINE DINING!™
                        complicate, obfuscate, prevaricate.

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